What you're saying is true, but there's not that much you can say about languages that ISN'T personal preference, in the end. I agree, which is why I said your

What you're saying is true, but there's not that much you can say about languages that ISN'T personal preference, in the end. I agree, which is why I said your original comment (that these guys need to prove their language is somehow better than Clojure, because Clojure is, in your opinion, the "best" language on the JVM) was a bit vacuous. ;) Incidentally, I will say I'm enormously pleased that Clojure has seen some non-trivial success, and I'm happy you've found a language that you seem to enjoy so much. Lisps have a lot to offer the world, and it's nice to see a mainstream, Lisp-derived language running on a modern platform like the JVM! I happen to feel the same way about projects like this one that are bringing ML-derived languages to the JVM (incidentally, I also happen to be an F# fan on the CLR for the same reason). And the fact that you could happily use both for different parts of a problem domain in the same project makes me happier still!