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Trump names Rudy Giuliani as cybersecurity adviser

41 points by mzs 10y ago

beebeebush 10y ago
Right man for right job. Obama had so many wrong people in very wrong jobs. It's amazing how nobody is questioning his methods as president ? Technical level in obamacare (was) really slow/bad/terrible level. He definitely not need any Nobles prices for peace eather.
rbanffy 10y ago
/me grabs popcorn. It'll be fun to watch.
Esau 10y ago
Maybe it's me but I swear Trump goes out of his way to name people who's personal views are the opposite of their assigned mission.
- thewhitetulip 10y ago
  Yes, he is doing that. RT(Ruptly TV) news channel made a joke about it, if Trump is to nominate someone for "ministry of comedy", he'd find someone who hates comedy.
mzs 10y ago
On a related note, does anyone know who and what meeting PE Trump was referring to yesterday? "One of the things we’re going to do, we have some of the greatest computer minds anywhere in the world that we've assembled. You saw just a sample of it two weeks ago up here we had the six top people in the world. They were never the same room together as a group. And we’re going to put those minds together, and we're going to form a defense."
- radiorental 10y ago
  Probably this meeting https://www.wired.com/2016/12/trump-meeting-tech-ceos-gonna-awkward/ https://www.wired.com/2016/12/trump-meeting-tech-ceos-gonna-...
  - binaryblitz 10y ago
    Wow, a room full of people who know nothing about cyber security. Good job drumpf.
    - radiorental 10y ago
      A room full of people advocating for tax breaks for their busniesses
Someone1234 10y ago
A better way to phase this is that Giuliani's private consulting business is a cybersecurity adviser. Giuliani himself likely has no expertise in the field at all. Overall the US is going to keep getting successfully exploited until they actually ask subject experts how to defend themselves rather than lawyers, MBAs, and politicians. This is something Obama did very well with the "The United States Digital Service." He cut out the useless empty suites, got in a bunch of subject experts, and accomplished things. Can you imagine how critical the media would be if Trump's defence advisor was a lawyer? But for IT and cyber security that's just fine I guess...
- mzs 10y ago
  https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10158063868120483&set=a.10150949858285483.759045.774635482 https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10158063868120483&se...
- mzs 10y ago
  https://twitter.com/Viss/status/819686452002861056 https://twitter.com/Viss/status/819686452002861056
- erikpukinskis 10y ago
  I would read it as "Trump administration enters intelligence-sharing agreement with Giuliani consultancy".
- rayiner 10y ago
  Giuliani's firm is involved in cybersecurity primarily on the crisis management/internal investigation/liability side of things. Not "how do you harden your servers," but "how do you prepare your organization for when you get hacked," and "when you do get hacked, how do you respond?" Which is how most large organizations view "cybersecurity." It should be noted that Secretaries of Defense often are not soldiers (the current one isn't).
  - omouse 10y ago
    If the value in column X is less than the value in column Y, we don't fix the problem. Something like that, from Fight Club.
plandis 10y ago
Seems like Trump is rewarding those who support him over actual qualified individuals. Bummer.
- ciconia 10y ago
  Did you really expect anything other than that? Are you really taking this guy seriously?
  - krapp 10y ago
    Well... we have to take him seriously. He's about to command an army and control a nuclear arsenal.
- runamok 10y ago
  This was SOP during the George W. Bush presidency as well: http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/the_big_idea/2008/11/loyalty.html http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/the_big_idea... There is at least some research that conservatives value loyalty far more than liberals: http://www.ethicsdefined.org/the-problem-with-morality/conservatives-vs-liberals/ http://www.ethicsdefined.org/the-problem-with-morality/conse...
Gargoyle 10y ago
The person with the current role closest to this one- https://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/author/michael-daniel https://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/author/michael-daniel
- jdironman 10y ago
  It's interesting how they try to make him relatable at the end of that with the 'Rambunctious' kids and personal endeavors bit. Maybe I am just nit-picking.

41 points by mzs 10y ago

Right man for right job. Obama had so many wrong people in very wrong jobs. It's amazing how nobody is questioning his methods as president ? Technical level in obamacare (was) really slow/bad/terrible level. He definitely not need any Nobles prices for peace eather.

rbanffy 10y ago

/me grabs popcorn. It'll be fun to watch.

Esau 10y ago

Maybe it's me but I swear Trump goes out of his way to name people who's personal views are the opposite of their assigned mission.

thewhitetulip 10y ago
Yes, he is doing that. RT(Ruptly TV) news channel made a joke about it, if Trump is to nominate someone for "ministry of comedy", he'd find someone who hates comedy.

mzs 10y ago

On a related note, does anyone know who and what meeting PE Trump was referring to yesterday? "One of the things we’re going to do, we have some of the greatest computer minds anywhere in the world that we've assembled. You saw just a sample of it two weeks ago up here we had the six top people in the world. They were never the same room together as a group. And we’re going to put those minds together, and we're going to form a defense."

radiorental 10y ago
Probably this meeting https://www.wired.com/2016/12/trump-meeting-tech-ceos-gonna-awkward/ https://www.wired.com/2016/12/trump-meeting-tech-ceos-gonna-...
- binaryblitz 10y ago
  Wow, a room full of people who know nothing about cyber security. Good job drumpf.
  - radiorental 10y ago
    A room full of people advocating for tax breaks for their busniesses

Someone1234 10y ago

A better way to phase this is that Giuliani's private consulting business is a cybersecurity adviser. Giuliani himself likely has no expertise in the field at all. Overall the US is going to keep getting successfully exploited until they actually ask subject experts how to defend themselves rather than lawyers, MBAs, and politicians. This is something Obama did very well with the "The United States Digital Service." He cut out the useless empty suites, got in a bunch of subject experts, and accomplished things. Can you imagine how critical the media would be if Trump's defence advisor was a lawyer? But for IT and cyber security that's just fine I guess...

mzs 10y ago
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10158063868120483&set=a.10150949858285483.759045.774635482 https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10158063868120483&se...
mzs 10y ago
https://twitter.com/Viss/status/819686452002861056 https://twitter.com/Viss/status/819686452002861056
erikpukinskis 10y ago
I would read it as "Trump administration enters intelligence-sharing agreement with Giuliani consultancy".
rayiner 10y ago
Giuliani's firm is involved in cybersecurity primarily on the crisis management/internal investigation/liability side of things. Not "how do you harden your servers," but "how do you prepare your organization for when you get hacked," and "when you do get hacked, how do you respond?" Which is how most large organizations view "cybersecurity." It should be noted that Secretaries of Defense often are not soldiers (the current one isn't).
- omouse 10y ago
  If the value in column X is less than the value in column Y, we don't fix the problem. Something like that, from Fight Club.

plandis 10y ago

Seems like Trump is rewarding those who support him over actual qualified individuals. Bummer.

ciconia 10y ago
Did you really expect anything other than that? Are you really taking this guy seriously?
- krapp 10y ago
  Well... we have to take him seriously. He's about to command an army and control a nuclear arsenal.
runamok 10y ago
This was SOP during the George W. Bush presidency as well: http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/the_big_idea/2008/11/loyalty.html http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/the_big_idea... There is at least some research that conservatives value loyalty far more than liberals: http://www.ethicsdefined.org/the-problem-with-morality/conservatives-vs-liberals/ http://www.ethicsdefined.org/the-problem-with-morality/conse...

Gargoyle 10y ago

The person with the current role closest to this one- https://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/author/michael-daniel https://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/author/michael-daniel

jdironman 10y ago
It's interesting how they try to make him relatable at the end of that with the 'Rambunctious' kids and personal endeavors bit. Maybe I am just nit-picking.