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Maybe its not just apple. Growing up in the 90's I imagined this cool VR / AI future right out of Gibson's Neuromancer. Instead we have these walled gardens,

by tmaly 10y ago

Maybe its not just apple. Growing up in the 90's I imagined this cool VR / AI future right out of Gibson's Neuromancer. Instead we have these walled gardens, the Internet has become less open, less free to the masses. Everything has become about commercialization instead of innovation and exploration.

ajeet_dhaliwal 10y ago
I've got tired of the walled gardens on phones especially. Stopped iOS dev and went back to web.
- equalarrow 10y ago
  I see this type of comment a lot. It's not just iOS, Android now has a review process and Google will keep driving in the Apple direction because it is successful. And if it's like the op says where everythig is in the cloud, then walled gardens don't matter much as long as your service has a native app or mobile web (hint, they probably have both). What's the really big issue is privacy (which I know is gone) and what facebook is doing to the world. Everyone likes to bash on Apple lately, but Apple is 'acquiring' a lot less of your personalized data than the social networks and Google are (they are also trying to take the lead in being privacy first). Facebook is just a big ad platform and dont forget 'free' == you are the product.
- HugoDaniel 10y ago
  PWA FTW [0] https://developers.google.com/web/progressive-web-apps/ https://developers.google.com/web/progressive-web-apps/
l3m0ndr0p 10y ago
Also - in the USA, we should have Fiber to all homes by now, but instead what do we have? Segmented, ancient infrastructure, run by ISPs that have carved out territories with no competition, no foreseeable upgrades and the end of "net neutrality." Greed is front and center over providing an inexpensive and innovative means of communication (internet). Peace
ivraatiems 10y ago
Neuromancer's cool, but the world it represents isn't exactly amazing, or that much better than ours, unless I'm mistaken. Plus, honestly... what else should we expect? We live in a capitalistic, commercialistic, materialistic society. Hypercommercialization of any and all technology is the default.
treehau5 10y ago
And yet, so, so many of us have our comfortable jobs and salaries as a result.
chillingeffect 10y ago
Yes a major transformation took place. I anticipated a world where my C64 would be online with friends running humorous programs on it, making me giggle while I worked, synthing music while we walked down the street. A few bad guys here and there with personal grievances, but the local cyberlord taking them out swiftly. As it turned out, based on the 90s and Windows, there are soooooo many bad guys out there it's unbelievable. And their ability to scale is sublime. It wasn't about one devil-eyed hacker in my cafe with a piece of malware on a green crystal.... More mundane and multiplicitous, it's 100,000 script kiddies in every country around the world trying password lists in every port on every IP address. Mostly to simply re-sell the data to someone who actually has a plan. And that's neverminding the concentrated, hybrid state/criminal enterprises operating out of labs with crazy budgets. So I think that's why everything just had to get walled to death, or rather sterility. I still giggle at images while I'm working, but the security of the channels through which a "hold my beer" .gif travels to get to me is astonishing. It would probably take a day just to verify a 4096-bit security algorithm on my old friend, the 6502.

by tmaly 10y ago

ajeet_dhaliwal 10y ago

I've got tired of the walled gardens on phones especially. Stopped iOS dev and went back to web.

equalarrow 10y ago
I see this type of comment a lot. It's not just iOS, Android now has a review process and Google will keep driving in the Apple direction because it is successful. And if it's like the op says where everythig is in the cloud, then walled gardens don't matter much as long as your service has a native app or mobile web (hint, they probably have both). What's the really big issue is privacy (which I know is gone) and what facebook is doing to the world. Everyone likes to bash on Apple lately, but Apple is 'acquiring' a lot less of your personalized data than the social networks and Google are (they are also trying to take the lead in being privacy first). Facebook is just a big ad platform and dont forget 'free' == you are the product.
HugoDaniel 10y ago
PWA FTW [0] https://developers.google.com/web/progressive-web-apps/ https://developers.google.com/web/progressive-web-apps/

l3m0ndr0p 10y ago

Also - in the USA, we should have Fiber to all homes by now, but instead what do we have? Segmented, ancient infrastructure, run by ISPs that have carved out territories with no competition, no foreseeable upgrades and the end of "net neutrality." Greed is front and center over providing an inexpensive and innovative means of communication (internet). Peace

ivraatiems 10y ago

Neuromancer's cool, but the world it represents isn't exactly amazing, or that much better than ours, unless I'm mistaken. Plus, honestly... what else should we expect? We live in a capitalistic, commercialistic, materialistic society. Hypercommercialization of any and all technology is the default.

treehau5 10y ago

And yet, so, so many of us have our comfortable jobs and salaries as a result.

chillingeffect 10y ago

Yes a major transformation took place. I anticipated a world where my C64 would be online with friends running humorous programs on it, making me giggle while I worked, synthing music while we walked down the street. A few bad guys here and there with personal grievances, but the local cyberlord taking them out swiftly. As it turned out, based on the 90s and Windows, there are soooooo many bad guys out there it's unbelievable. And their ability to scale is sublime. It wasn't about one devil-eyed hacker in my cafe with a piece of malware on a green crystal.... More mundane and multiplicitous, it's 100,000 script kiddies in every country around the world trying password lists in every port on every IP address. Mostly to simply re-sell the data to someone who actually has a plan. And that's neverminding the concentrated, hybrid state/criminal enterprises operating out of labs with crazy budgets. So I think that's why everything just had to get walled to death, or rather sterility. I still giggle at images while I'm working, but the security of the channels through which a "hold my beer" .gif travels to get to me is astonishing. It would probably take a day just to verify a 4096-bit security algorithm on my old friend, the 6502.