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> >Now politicians claim to have never done things they are on film doing, and people believe them. > "I never had sexual relations with that woman". Wait, th
by croon 10y ago
> >Now politicians claim to have never done things they are on film doing, and people believe them.
> "I never had sexual relations with that woman".
Wait, there's a sex tape of Bill Clinton?
In all seriousness, quotes are all good, but you would benefit from saying what it is you hope to achieve by them.
- ThomPete 10y agoI think the point is that facts (whether on TV or not) didn't use to matter more than they do today.
- croon 10y agoSo you are claiming that no one cared about the Clinton scandal in the 90s? Because no one sure didn't seem to care about the numerous Trump ones.
- ThomPete 10y agoNo I am claiming the opposite. That people care as much today as they did back in the 90s.
- croon 10y agoI... can't say anything other than: Apparently not.
- ThomPete 10y agoI would love for you to substantiate that into something meaningful. So by all means. Prove me wrong.
- croon 10y agoHe won? That is very quantifiable. Despite on 69% of statements lying according to politifact. I would love for you to show me how people cared as much about truth now.
- ThomPete 10y agoThis is exactly where you are going wrong and I believe not really understand what politics is all about. People didn't vote on Trump because of those things that politfact measured. There weren't watching the debates to figure out who was the most well argued person based on some basic idea of their rhetorical skills. They voted on trump for all the things that Politifacts didn't measure but which matter to people and on those he was not lying. Also Hillary won the popular vote so even on that account she won and he didn't. Nothing new here.
- croon 10y ago> No I am claiming the opposite. That people care as much today as they did back in the 90s. > People didn't vote on Trump because of those things that politfact measured. There weren't watching the debates to figure out who was the most well argued person based on some basic idea of their rhetorical skills. I have not mentioned "well argued" nor talked about rhetoric. I've talked about speaking the truth or lying. You can speak the truth as an illiterate 5 year old. Are you deliberately changing your arguments/moving goal posts between all your responses?
- ThomPete 10y agoYes you have talked about the truth or lying but you have not yet made any argument pointing to where that have changed compared to before. Still waiting for that.
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- mcguire 10y agoDemocrats surely didn't. And the prosecution side was pretty sketchy in its own right.