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If you're looking for a great mail experience on Linux, I definitely recommend checking out Nylas N1. It's open source and built on ElectronJS with a beautiful

by grinich 10y ago

If you're looking for a great mail experience on Linux, I definitely recommend checking out Nylas N1. It's open source and built on ElectronJS with a beautiful UI and modern features. https://github.com/nylas/n1 https://github.com/nylas/n1 https://nylas.com/download https://nylas.com/download PS: I work at Nylas. :)

greenhatman 10y ago
I use N1. Love it. And it's open source!
BuuQu9hu 10y ago
What is the Nylas business model?
- grinich 10y ago
  We charge people for premium features: https://nylas.com/pricing https://nylas.com/pricing We also have an infrastructure API product that powers many apps: https://nylas.com/cloud https://nylas.com/cloud
- infinii 10y ago
  https://nylas.com/pricing/ https://nylas.com/pricing/
ptomato 10y ago
> great > ElectronJS A tad mutually exclusive. I did try N1 ~6 months ago and performance was as bad as expected in an Electron app, though admittedly it may have improved since then.
- grinich 10y ago
  We've made it a LOT faster and the next release is going to have an insane performance improvement. :)
OJFord 10y ago
> I definitely recommend checking out Nylas N1 I definitely recommend against Nylas, unless you want to pay a subscription fee. I, and many others, had a very sour experience [0] that wasn't helped by poor communication [1]. tl;dr - a free product suddenly turned into a paid product that was (mis-)sold as an upgrade. [0] - https://github.com/nylas/N1/issues/2617#issuecomment-233137118 https://github.com/nylas/N1/issues/2617#issuecomment-2331371... [1] - https://github.com/nylas/N1/issues/2617#issuecomment-233180252 https://github.com/nylas/N1/issues/2617#issuecomment-2331802...
- grinich 10y ago
  Hey Ollie-- sorry about that. Honestly the truth is we weren't expecting N1 to grow so fast in popularity, and we realistically couldn't afford the unbounded infrastructure cost associated with running it for free. We also didn't want to add an advertising system or sell user data or anything scammy like that to pay the bills, so we decided to simply charge users for the version which uses our hosted backend. We had to implement this pretty quickly, and I wrote about the transition here: https://nylas.com/blog/nylas-pro https://nylas.com/blog/nylas-pro Our team at the time was almost entirely engineers (including myself) and we definitely could have done a better job with the messaging. But on another note... stay tuned! We're working on some updates that should make it more affordable for folks who just want the basic mail experience and don't need any of the pro features like open/link tracking, mail merge, Salesforce integration, etc.
  - OJFord 10y ago
    Thanks for your reply. I totally understand, and of course, at the end of the day I was trying to just leech on the free tier. It was just the communication around it that sucked, as well as the suddenness. To be honest, it's not really for me - I liked the app, but was only using your server infrastructure because that's the way the app worked. (I just wanted the UI into gmail and outlook.)
    - Fnoord 10y ago
      > Thanks for your reply. I totally understand, and of course, at the end of the day I was trying to just leech on the free tier. It was just the communication around it that sucked, as well as the suddenness. Well, you did get a year subscription for free. That part of communication didn't suck. I'd agree it felt a bit like bait 'n switch, but their developers also gotta eat. I'm just using Nylas N1 as home user, and I don't want any more subscriptions. I'm oversubscribed as it is. If I were commercial of business that'd be different. A one time fee would be OK with me (YMMV!). It is also still an open source version. Would I be able to self host on a Raspberry Pi btw? Aren't businesses better off to just self host instead of going w/Pro?

by grinich 10y ago

greenhatman 10y ago

I use N1. Love it. And it's open source!

BuuQu9hu 10y ago

What is the Nylas business model?

grinich 10y ago
We charge people for premium features: https://nylas.com/pricing https://nylas.com/pricing We also have an infrastructure API product that powers many apps: https://nylas.com/cloud https://nylas.com/cloud
infinii 10y ago
https://nylas.com/pricing/ https://nylas.com/pricing/

ptomato 10y ago

> great > ElectronJS A tad mutually exclusive. I did try N1 ~6 months ago and performance was as bad as expected in an Electron app, though admittedly it may have improved since then.

grinich 10y ago
We've made it a LOT faster and the next release is going to have an insane performance improvement. :)

OJFord 10y ago

> I definitely recommend checking out Nylas N1 I definitely recommend against Nylas, unless you want to pay a subscription fee. I, and many others, had a very sour experience [0] that wasn't helped by poor communication [1]. tl;dr - a free product suddenly turned into a paid product that was (mis-)sold as an upgrade. [0] - https://github.com/nylas/N1/issues/2617#issuecomment-233137118 https://github.com/nylas/N1/issues/2617#issuecomment-2331371... [1] - https://github.com/nylas/N1/issues/2617#issuecomment-233180252 https://github.com/nylas/N1/issues/2617#issuecomment-2331802...

grinich 10y ago
Hey Ollie-- sorry about that. Honestly the truth is we weren't expecting N1 to grow so fast in popularity, and we realistically couldn't afford the unbounded infrastructure cost associated with running it for free. We also didn't want to add an advertising system or sell user data or anything scammy like that to pay the bills, so we decided to simply charge users for the version which uses our hosted backend. We had to implement this pretty quickly, and I wrote about the transition here: https://nylas.com/blog/nylas-pro https://nylas.com/blog/nylas-pro Our team at the time was almost entirely engineers (including myself) and we definitely could have done a better job with the messaging. But on another note... stay tuned! We're working on some updates that should make it more affordable for folks who just want the basic mail experience and don't need any of the pro features like open/link tracking, mail merge, Salesforce integration, etc.
- OJFord 10y ago
  Thanks for your reply. I totally understand, and of course, at the end of the day I was trying to just leech on the free tier. It was just the communication around it that sucked, as well as the suddenness. To be honest, it's not really for me - I liked the app, but was only using your server infrastructure because that's the way the app worked. (I just wanted the UI into gmail and outlook.)
  - Fnoord 10y ago
    > Thanks for your reply. I totally understand, and of course, at the end of the day I was trying to just leech on the free tier. It was just the communication around it that sucked, as well as the suddenness. Well, you did get a year subscription for free. That part of communication didn't suck. I'd agree it felt a bit like bait 'n switch, but their developers also gotta eat. I'm just using Nylas N1 as home user, and I don't want any more subscriptions. I'm oversubscribed as it is. If I were commercial of business that'd be different. A one time fee would be OK with me (YMMV!). It is also still an open source version. Would I be able to self host on a Raspberry Pi btw? Aren't businesses better off to just self host instead of going w/Pro?