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Wow, that's fucking terrible. I've been incredibly lucky to either have two short interviews with companies on separate days or just a 5-6 hour interview. I wo

Wow, that's fucking terrible. I've been incredibly lucky to either have two short interviews with companies on separate days or just a 5-6 hour interview. I wouldn't tolerate having to jump through so many hoops.

seanp2k2 10y ago
Yeah, don't try to get a job at Google, then. They basically make you do the HR + HR quizzing you on tech trivia they don't understand ("that's not the answer I have in front of me") + 2 tech phone screens + full-day onsite. The real rub is that you go through this entire months-long process 2-5x to convince them that you really want it. Their recruiters frequently won't tell you what's going on; weeks of radio silence is the norm with them, missed interviews on their side, last-minute re-schedules, long delays and dropped balls everywhere. Then you'll get a rejection with no clear reason, and they'll encourage you to try again, even setting up another interview 6 months down the line "when you're ready" (basically, after you've studied how to pass the Google Trials). They now have a standardized salary for all new employees, and in the end they make their money selling ads. Once you do get hired, you'll be doing Orkut support or Google Apps password resets. They have tons of crazy over-qualified engineers working on basically oiling the gears of the advertising money machine. You could try to do something very impressive (on the surface) to get promoted to middle management, then never get the chance to maintain it...this is a big part of why so much stuff they launch doesn't improve beyond v1 and just gets shut off a couple of years later.
- dmode 10y ago
  Spot on. It is amazing that after 20 rounds of interview, you get a generic rejection email "We have decided to not move forward at this time, although we liked your profile blah blah blah". If I recall correctly, Google actually started this trend of over interviewing. I remember my friends started bragging about how they got a job after 17 rounds at Google, or how they cleared 22 rounds, but were rejected at the 23rd round. I wonder if this is truly about weeding out or just that no one wants to make a decision and just punt the ball to someone else.
  - Apocryphon 10y ago
    It's the generic rejection email without feedback that's particularly egregious. If there's such an issue about not provided feedback, b/c mythical litigious rejected candidates would sue b/c of alleged discrimination, then someone should try to fix that. Institute some sort of legal disclaimer that allows candidates to receive feedback if they promise not to sue.
- BlackjackCF 10y ago
  Yeah, the more that I hear about interviews at the Big Four, the more I'm glad I've stuck with smaller companies and startups. My experience has been so much better and I've learned tons from having to be more bootstrapped.

seanp2k2 10y ago

Yeah, don't try to get a job at Google, then. They basically make you do the HR + HR quizzing you on tech trivia they don't understand ("that's not the answer I have in front of me") + 2 tech phone screens + full-day onsite. The real rub is that you go through this entire months-long process 2-5x to convince them that you really want it. Their recruiters frequently won't tell you what's going on; weeks of radio silence is the norm with them, missed interviews on their side, last-minute re-schedules, long delays and dropped balls everywhere. Then you'll get a rejection with no clear reason, and they'll encourage you to try again, even setting up another interview 6 months down the line "when you're ready" (basically, after you've studied how to pass the Google Trials). They now have a standardized salary for all new employees, and in the end they make their money selling ads. Once you do get hired, you'll be doing Orkut support or Google Apps password resets. They have tons of crazy over-qualified engineers working on basically oiling the gears of the advertising money machine. You could try to do something very impressive (on the surface) to get promoted to middle management, then never get the chance to maintain it...this is a big part of why so much stuff they launch doesn't improve beyond v1 and just gets shut off a couple of years later.

dmode 10y ago
Spot on. It is amazing that after 20 rounds of interview, you get a generic rejection email "We have decided to not move forward at this time, although we liked your profile blah blah blah". If I recall correctly, Google actually started this trend of over interviewing. I remember my friends started bragging about how they got a job after 17 rounds at Google, or how they cleared 22 rounds, but were rejected at the 23rd round. I wonder if this is truly about weeding out or just that no one wants to make a decision and just punt the ball to someone else.
- Apocryphon 10y ago
  It's the generic rejection email without feedback that's particularly egregious. If there's such an issue about not provided feedback, b/c mythical litigious rejected candidates would sue b/c of alleged discrimination, then someone should try to fix that. Institute some sort of legal disclaimer that allows candidates to receive feedback if they promise not to sue.
BlackjackCF 10y ago
Yeah, the more that I hear about interviews at the Big Four, the more I'm glad I've stuck with smaller companies and startups. My experience has been so much better and I've learned tons from having to be more bootstrapped.