Unless I'm missing something, you weren't the person I was responding to, right? I'm not saying that the startup environment is great for everyone, but it has

Unless I'm missing something, you weren't the person I was responding to, right? I'm not saying that the startup environment is great for everyone, but it has produced a compelling critique of the corporate environment. Clearly. Shared music, late nights, open plans, families, ping pong / pinball, and so on... These aren't per se the mark of a "boys club" in contrast to a "professional environment," they are a critique of the industry-style work environment, and one that has been enormously successful in two the most economically active cities in the USA.