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1. Your claim is people don't care about privacy. I say they never considered the implications, and provided evidence that people do switch from "not caring" to
by gizmo 10y ago
1. Your claim is people don't care about privacy. I say they never considered the implications, and provided evidence that people do switch from "not caring" to "caring" in some situations. We don't know whether people would care about the collection of meta-data because they've never seriously thought about the matter. Your assertion that people don't care is still false.
2. I am using the technical (dictionary) definition of "begging the question" and I'm using it correctly. We're not in agreement whether the data collection is fine. You say it is, I say it isn't. Begging the question is the fallacy where you assume the statement under examination to be true, which do you when you label collection "benign". After all, if I agreed it's benign we wouldn't be having this discussion.
3. Non-sequitur.
4. No evidence has been provided that opting out entirely will be possible, and it's not possible today, so it stands to reason it won't be possible in the future either (except perhaps with registry hacks).
- KirinDave 10y ago1. "If only everyone agreed with me and thought about it the way I do." I'm curious if you think I don't agree with you because I haven't worked through the conversation. 2. No. You didn't. And no, it isn't quite that. 3. Industry security as a holistic vision does indeed seem to be immaterial to this conversation. I talk back against this point in this community because I'd prefer not to see the slashdot-esque "M$" mindset take over the discourse in an industry that sorely needs competition in this space. 4. Since no evidence has been provided either way it doesn't seem safe to assume either way. I'm not sure why the lack of clear policy here is license for you to say "It is not changing."