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>he shallow depth of field pictures it takes makes me feel like I've got an SLR with a prime lens in my pocket wherever I go. I hope you are joking here. Even

by konart 10y ago

>he shallow depth of field pictures it takes makes me feel like I've got an SLR with a prime lens in my pocket wherever I go. I hope you are joking here. Even the cheapest SLR with some cheap lens produce better results atm. It's a fun feature to use, but nowhere near the SLR, even when using in perfect light conditions.

icanhackit 10y ago
> Even the cheapest SLR with some cheap lens produce better results atm. Perhaps in terms of resolution and rounder bokeh but you need to understand the effect of separating the subject from the background is the important part. Being able to do it quickly and without carrying a body and lens is incredibly valuable. Remember: The best camera is...
- konart 10y ago
  okay but this is not 'I've got an SLR with a prime lens in my pocket wherever I go.' Resolution, noise, soapy effect on border of the object separated from the background etc. 'Being able to do it quickly' is exactly what I called fun. No point comparing in to SLR of any price range.
  - icanhackit 10y ago
    > okay but this is not 'I've got an SLR with a prime lens in my pocket wherever I go.' You missed the important part of that quote: it takes makes me feel like ...meaning it was a subjective statement.
drhurdle 10y ago
Here was a comparison Ars Technica did with the iPhone 7 camera and a couple of Sony DSLR models. Of course the iPhone isn't going to win outright but I thought it held its own fairly well and the picture quality was quite good http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/12/mini-shootout-can-iphone-7s-bag-of-tricks-compete-with-a-real-dslr/ http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/12/mini-shootout-can-iph...
- konart 10y ago
  Well, I wasn't saying it has bad camera, just not nearly as good as any SLR with any lens, not for now at least.
robotresearcher 10y ago
>> makes me feel like I've got an SLR It doesn't matter very much what the objective performance is. Grandparent feels like he's got an SLR and there lies most of the value.
- konart 10y ago
  Okay, maybe I've misunderstood the initial comment.

by konart 10y ago

icanhackit 10y ago

> Even the cheapest SLR with some cheap lens produce better results atm. Perhaps in terms of resolution and rounder bokeh but you need to understand the effect of separating the subject from the background is the important part. Being able to do it quickly and without carrying a body and lens is incredibly valuable. Remember: The best camera is...

konart 10y ago
okay but this is not 'I've got an SLR with a prime lens in my pocket wherever I go.' Resolution, noise, soapy effect on border of the object separated from the background etc. 'Being able to do it quickly' is exactly what I called fun. No point comparing in to SLR of any price range.
- icanhackit 10y ago
  > okay but this is not 'I've got an SLR with a prime lens in my pocket wherever I go.' You missed the important part of that quote: it takes makes me feel like ...meaning it was a subjective statement.

drhurdle 10y ago

Here was a comparison Ars Technica did with the iPhone 7 camera and a couple of Sony DSLR models. Of course the iPhone isn't going to win outright but I thought it held its own fairly well and the picture quality was quite good http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/12/mini-shootout-can-iphone-7s-bag-of-tricks-compete-with-a-real-dslr/ http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/12/mini-shootout-can-iph...

konart 10y ago
Well, I wasn't saying it has bad camera, just not nearly as good as any SLR with any lens, not for now at least.

robotresearcher 10y ago

>> makes me feel like I've got an SLR It doesn't matter very much what the objective performance is. Grandparent feels like he's got an SLR and there lies most of the value.

konart 10y ago
Okay, maybe I've misunderstood the initial comment.