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Wow hugely interesting, including that Capitol Hill staff felt NSLs could not be issued against Cloudflare, when they were. One question I have, they chose to
by xja 10y ago
Wow hugely interesting, including that Capitol Hill staff felt NSLs could not be issued against Cloudflare, when they were.
One question I have, they chose to voluntarily redact the customers account name in question for obvious reasons. But have they now informed the customer directly?
In any case, thanks Cloudflare for fighting this. I often feel a bit bad about using Cloudflare for my blog, as it exposes users to a potential layer of tracking. This makes me feel a little better.
- jgrahamc 10y ago> I often feel a bit bad about using Cloudflare for my blog, as it exposes users to a potential layer of tracking. We're not tracking your users.
- cesarb 10y ago> We're not tracking your users. Which is why the parent poster said "potential". You're not tracking, but you could be.
- duckmysick 10y agoCouldn't the same be said about any web service, like DuckDuckGo?
- underyx 10y agoIt could, and OP would probably feel icky about serving their site through DuckDuckGo as well.
- duckmysick 10y agoIt's not just about serving the sites, it's about any company that claims they don't track users.
- gcp 10y agoWe're not tracking your users. As far as you're allowed to admit by NSL's, you mean :-) Intentions != Guarantees
- Jarwain 10y agoI was under the impression a NSL could not force the recipient to do work to comply. For example, they could hand over information they currently have, but they cannot insert a backdoor/vulnerability to start collecting data they previously didn't.
- gcp 10y agoThey presumably have some short term logging. Collecting those over a longer period = tracking.
- xja 10y agoWhich is why I said potential rather than actual. Having users terminate their connection at Cloudflare always adds an extra layer, and a dependency on a US corporation and therefore subject to the US legal system. It's not totally ideal. But I'm glad to hear you're trying your best.