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Thanks for the retrospect. I always think Dart has lots of potentials. It could be a great general-purpose programming language, as versatile as perl/python/rub

Thanks for the retrospect. I always think Dart has lots of potentials. It could be a great general-purpose programming language, as versatile as perl/python/ruby while tens of times faster than them all. Unfortunately, the dart developers are too obsessed about web programming and reluctant to embrace the bigger world. It is really a pity. PS: when dart came out, javascript was already blazingly fast (as a dynamic language) and largely usable. Dart is indeed better but not that better to revolutionize web programming. On the other hand, most general-purpose programming languages are very slow even nowadays. Pypy is faster than CPython, but not to the level of V8, dart, julia or luajit. A capable JIT compiled dynamic language may change how we program. Dart was the closest, but missed the target.

statsmatscats 10y ago
Julia is a general purpose language
- attractivechaos 10y ago
  Julia focuses too much on numerical programming, which makes it great for matlab users, but awkward for other purposes.
  - whyrt12 10y ago
    In what way?
pjmlp 10y ago
> A capable JIT compiled dynamic language may change how we program. You mean Lisp? AOT/JIT available since the 70's.
flukus 10y ago
Seems like nim and crystal would fill that void better, maybe even rust.
- dom96 10y ago
  Yes, especially considering that Nim can compile to JS too. It truly is general purpose in that regard.
- porker 10y ago
  > Seems like nim and crystal would fill that void better Having seen a talk on Nim at the Bris.tech conference [1], I can't think of any void it would fill better than an alternative. My takeaway was it was a very flexible but poorly designed language with too many ways to do anything. 1. Video coming soon; keep an eye on https://www.youtube.com/user/bristechmeetup/videos https://www.youtube.com/user/bristechmeetup/videos
  - dom96 10y ago
    That's sad to hear. But I want to learn more. Can you give some specific examples of what gave you that impression?

statsmatscats 10y ago

Julia is a general purpose language

attractivechaos 10y ago
Julia focuses too much on numerical programming, which makes it great for matlab users, but awkward for other purposes.
- whyrt12 10y ago
  In what way?

pjmlp 10y ago

> A capable JIT compiled dynamic language may change how we program. You mean Lisp? AOT/JIT available since the 70's.

flukus 10y ago

Seems like nim and crystal would fill that void better, maybe even rust.

dom96 10y ago
Yes, especially considering that Nim can compile to JS too. It truly is general purpose in that regard.
porker 10y ago
> Seems like nim and crystal would fill that void better Having seen a talk on Nim at the Bris.tech conference [1], I can't think of any void it would fill better than an alternative. My takeaway was it was a very flexible but poorly designed language with too many ways to do anything. 1. Video coming soon; keep an eye on https://www.youtube.com/user/bristechmeetup/videos https://www.youtube.com/user/bristechmeetup/videos
- dom96 10y ago
  That's sad to hear. But I want to learn more. Can you give some specific examples of what gave you that impression?