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Charging people as a subscription service for meditation help feels a little queasy. Also I think it's a Silicon Valley neurosis that you need an app or techno

Charging people as a subscription service for meditation help feels a little queasy. Also I think it's a Silicon Valley neurosis that you need an app or technology to address problems like depression and low self-esteem (which meditation in the traditional sense addresses).

cellularmitosis 10y ago
As a counter to this point, there are many people who have more money than time. If this service has any chance whatsoever of improving their quality of life, ~$12/mo is just an absolutely trivial thing to give up in exchange for that.
brunoqc 10y ago
> Charging people as a subscription service for meditation help feels a little queasy. Yes and it's sad that they all do it. I would prefer a one time buy.
- edawerd 10y ago
  I believe they have a one-time "lifetime" subscription buy
  - kovacs 10y ago
    I use this app which used to be $5 but is now free - https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/mindfulness-app-meditation/id417071430?mt=8 https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/mindfulness-app-meditation/i... Apparently they too switched to a freemium subscription model. Having subscription models for meditation apps is like having a subscription model for a music service with 20 albums. I get that there's the whole tracking aspect of it but that's hardly interesting enough and there's not enough demand for new content to make sense to rent monthly. Clearly I'm in the minority because Headspace is hiring in Santa Monica and SF now. I'll say this, if Converse changes to a subscription model for chucks there's gonna be trouble...
eswat 10y ago
It’s been interesting seeing the pricing difference between tech’s take on monetizing meditation (cheap subscriptions or high-priced lifetime access) and those done by the mindfulness “thought leaders” or Sounds True (varying levels of lifetime access ranging from very cheap to very high-priced).
- plaguuuuuu 10y ago
  I think the proper comparison would be with rocking up at a monastery and talking to some actual humans. Cost? No idea.
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tb303 10y ago
+1000 kabat-zinn guided meditations with lots of silence, free body scan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8oKWQiEWYs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8oKWQiEWYs 10 min: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HYLyuJZKno https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HYLyuJZKno 40 min: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQkzhyXEc-0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQkzhyXEc-0 (many others, search kabat-zinn on yt) you don't need an app.

cellularmitosis 10y ago

As a counter to this point, there are many people who have more money than time. If this service has any chance whatsoever of improving their quality of life, ~$12/mo is just an absolutely trivial thing to give up in exchange for that.

brunoqc 10y ago

> Charging people as a subscription service for meditation help feels a little queasy. Yes and it's sad that they all do it. I would prefer a one time buy.

edawerd 10y ago
I believe they have a one-time "lifetime" subscription buy
- kovacs 10y ago
  I use this app which used to be $5 but is now free - https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/mindfulness-app-meditation/id417071430?mt=8 https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/mindfulness-app-meditation/i... Apparently they too switched to a freemium subscription model. Having subscription models for meditation apps is like having a subscription model for a music service with 20 albums. I get that there's the whole tracking aspect of it but that's hardly interesting enough and there's not enough demand for new content to make sense to rent monthly. Clearly I'm in the minority because Headspace is hiring in Santa Monica and SF now. I'll say this, if Converse changes to a subscription model for chucks there's gonna be trouble...

eswat 10y ago

It’s been interesting seeing the pricing difference between tech’s take on monetizing meditation (cheap subscriptions or high-priced lifetime access) and those done by the mindfulness “thought leaders” or Sounds True (varying levels of lifetime access ranging from very cheap to very high-priced).

plaguuuuuu 10y ago
I think the proper comparison would be with rocking up at a monastery and talking to some actual humans. Cost? No idea.

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tb303 10y ago

+1000 kabat-zinn guided meditations with lots of silence, free body scan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8oKWQiEWYs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8oKWQiEWYs 10 min: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HYLyuJZKno https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HYLyuJZKno 40 min: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQkzhyXEc-0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQkzhyXEc-0 (many others, search kabat-zinn on yt) you don't need an app.