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I'm also very interested in this area of AI. It does seem like it is due for a resurgence. I wonder a bit if there is a bias against the gaming aspect of it.

by bluetwo 10y ago

I'm also very interested in this area of AI. It does seem like it is due for a resurgence. I wonder a bit if there is a bias against the gaming aspect of it. The jumps in poker have been kind of neat lately. Would like to see more variations played.

mastazi 10y ago
This is completely OT but I just googled about the topic of "solving" Texas Hold'em Poker and other imperfect information games and discovered that one of the contributors to the research on Counterfactual Regret Minimization algorithms, developed at the University of Alberta[0], is Oskari Tammelin[1] who also created, in the late 90s, my favourite piece of music software, Jeskola Buzz[2]. His personal website[3] contains pages on both topics. [0] http://poker.srv.ualberta.ca/about http://poker.srv.ualberta.ca/about [1] https://arxiv.org/abs/1407.5042 https://arxiv.org/abs/1407.5042 [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeskola_Buzz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeskola_Buzz [3] http://jeskola.net/ http://jeskola.net/
- radarsat1 10y ago
  That's pretty awesome! I used to use Buzz quite a bit too! In fact his harddrive mishap is what pushed me over the edge to become an open source advocate ;) I wish I could find the details about that accident, but if I can remember correctly he lost the source code for Buzz and people spent quite a bit of time reverse engineering the .exe just to be able to continue writing "gear" for Buzz..
  - mastazi 10y ago
    Yes, he eventually re-wrote the whole application in .NET, that is the version I'm using now and 99% of my old tracks and plugins from around 1999-2003 still work OK in the current version! I wish Buzz was open source too, I don't know if you've ever tried any but there are a couple of similar open source applications, my favourite used to be Psycle, even though the project doesn't seem to be very active nowadays http://psycle.pastnotecut.org/portal.php http://psycle.pastnotecut.org/portal.php and there is also Buzztrax which directly inspired from Buzz http://buzztrax.org/ http://buzztrax.org/
    - mastazi 10y ago
      BTW if anyone is looking for buzzmachines.com then you're out of luck, it seems that the website was hacked and DB user info leaked, more back story here: http://forums.jeskola.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2040 http://forums.jeskola.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2040 The new reference site for Buzz gear is this one: http://buzz.robotplanet.dk/ http://buzz.robotplanet.dk/
- bluetwo 10y ago
  Well, I'm also interested in this area, so I guess I have something else to research!

by bluetwo 10y ago

mastazi 10y ago

This is completely OT but I just googled about the topic of "solving" Texas Hold'em Poker and other imperfect information games and discovered that one of the contributors to the research on Counterfactual Regret Minimization algorithms, developed at the University of Alberta[0], is Oskari Tammelin[1] who also created, in the late 90s, my favourite piece of music software, Jeskola Buzz[2]. His personal website[3] contains pages on both topics. [0] http://poker.srv.ualberta.ca/about http://poker.srv.ualberta.ca/about [1] https://arxiv.org/abs/1407.5042 https://arxiv.org/abs/1407.5042 [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeskola_Buzz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeskola_Buzz [3] http://jeskola.net/ http://jeskola.net/

radarsat1 10y ago
That's pretty awesome! I used to use Buzz quite a bit too! In fact his harddrive mishap is what pushed me over the edge to become an open source advocate ;) I wish I could find the details about that accident, but if I can remember correctly he lost the source code for Buzz and people spent quite a bit of time reverse engineering the .exe just to be able to continue writing "gear" for Buzz..
- mastazi 10y ago
  Yes, he eventually re-wrote the whole application in .NET, that is the version I'm using now and 99% of my old tracks and plugins from around 1999-2003 still work OK in the current version! I wish Buzz was open source too, I don't know if you've ever tried any but there are a couple of similar open source applications, my favourite used to be Psycle, even though the project doesn't seem to be very active nowadays http://psycle.pastnotecut.org/portal.php http://psycle.pastnotecut.org/portal.php and there is also Buzztrax which directly inspired from Buzz http://buzztrax.org/ http://buzztrax.org/
  - mastazi 10y ago
    BTW if anyone is looking for buzzmachines.com then you're out of luck, it seems that the website was hacked and DB user info leaked, more back story here: http://forums.jeskola.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2040 http://forums.jeskola.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2040 The new reference site for Buzz gear is this one: http://buzz.robotplanet.dk/ http://buzz.robotplanet.dk/
bluetwo 10y ago
Well, I'm also interested in this area, so I guess I have something else to research!