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Sure, that sounds correct. And yet apparently the states have continued to ignore that ruling in a sense. So the onus is on the feds to enforce that law and the

by drvdevd 10y ago

Sure, that sounds correct. And yet apparently the states have continued to ignore that ruling in a sense. So the onus is on the feds to enforce that law and the states can choose to fight such actions (or not to) in whichever way they please. The difference this time around is that the (legal) marijuana industry has significantly more political clout, social acceptance and financial muscle than 2 decades ago, so I see the states pushing back harder against the feds this time around.

dpark 10y ago
That's all fine but this is decided law. The states could fight and potentially the Supreme Court could overturn precedent, but as of right now the federal government is 100% in control of the legality of marijuana nationwide. I actually don't see the Supreme Court overturning this precedent because it's relevant to too many other cases, such as outlawing fully automatic weapons. It's far more likely that congress could repeal or reduce its own regulations and leave this to the states. Supposedly both major parties should want this, since the right talks about states rights and the left want marijuana legalized for its own sake.
- posterboy 10y ago
  on the other hand, owning a gun is close to attempted manslaughter, and that means no malintent, just accepting a not so faint possibilitt, whereas farming cannabis sativa has a magnitudes smaller, negligable possibility. Disclaimer: I'm currently biased, if you know what I mean.
  - dpark 10y ago
    > owning a gun is close to attempted manslaughter, and that means no malintent This is a pretty unreasonable statement unless farming marijuana is also "close" to giving drugs to children. I agree that machine guns are far more dangerous to allow in broad society than marijuana, but I don't think your comparison is very useful.
    - posterboy 10y ago
      Of course I a admitted a degree of certainty and responsibility, that is required in either case. I just argue that it differs, because the lethal dose of cannabis is ridiculously high. But I can appreciate the Irony of the question, no doubt. Edit: wording Edit: well, the LD is probably not that high, i wouldn't recommend to try for it
- DrScump 10y ago
  outlawing fully automatic weapons Federal law doesn't outlaw full-auto weapons; it taxes them. Their ownership and use is legal in many states.
  - dpark 10y ago
    It outlaws new ones being purchased directly by civilians.

by drvdevd 10y ago

dpark 10y ago

That's all fine but this is decided law. The states could fight and potentially the Supreme Court could overturn precedent, but as of right now the federal government is 100% in control of the legality of marijuana nationwide. I actually don't see the Supreme Court overturning this precedent because it's relevant to too many other cases, such as outlawing fully automatic weapons. It's far more likely that congress could repeal or reduce its own regulations and leave this to the states. Supposedly both major parties should want this, since the right talks about states rights and the left want marijuana legalized for its own sake.

posterboy 10y ago
on the other hand, owning a gun is close to attempted manslaughter, and that means no malintent, just accepting a not so faint possibilitt, whereas farming cannabis sativa has a magnitudes smaller, negligable possibility. Disclaimer: I'm currently biased, if you know what I mean.
- dpark 10y ago
  > owning a gun is close to attempted manslaughter, and that means no malintent This is a pretty unreasonable statement unless farming marijuana is also "close" to giving drugs to children. I agree that machine guns are far more dangerous to allow in broad society than marijuana, but I don't think your comparison is very useful.
  - posterboy 10y ago
    Of course I a admitted a degree of certainty and responsibility, that is required in either case. I just argue that it differs, because the lethal dose of cannabis is ridiculously high. But I can appreciate the Irony of the question, no doubt. Edit: wording Edit: well, the LD is probably not that high, i wouldn't recommend to try for it
DrScump 10y ago
outlawing fully automatic weapons Federal law doesn't outlaw full-auto weapons; it taxes them. Their ownership and use is legal in many states.
- dpark 10y ago
  It outlaws new ones being purchased directly by civilians.