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It's telling that the lowest telemetry level is considered a premium "Enterprise" feature [1], and there's no way to disable it entirely. [1] https://technet.m
by mintplant 10y ago
It's telling that the lowest telemetry level is considered a premium "Enterprise" feature [1], and there's no way to disable it entirely.
[1] https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/itpro/windows/manage/configure-windows-telemetry-in-your-organization https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/itpro/windows/manage/con... CTRL-F "windows 10 enterprise"
- ocdtrekkie 10y agoA big part of the issue I'd think is that as Microsoft pushes over to the Store as a significant app distribution medium, they consider no telemetry a breaking issue for anyone who doesn't have an enterprise software deployment setup. I'm kinda sad to see that's where we've hit on service dependence though.
- hendersoon 10y agoI have telemetry completely disabled via a 3rd party program. The Windows app store works perfectly fine.
- ocdtrekkie 10y agoIsn't Microsoft sending requests to see if updated versions of Store apps are available telemetry, if it indicates which apps you have installed? There's always some manner of detectable feedback they could collect, and so no matter how slight "Basic" telemetry becomes, it may be dishonest to ever call it "No" telemetry.
- hendersoon 10y agoContacting MS servers for functionality inherent in the application being executed is perfectly fine by me. I expect Spotify to know I just listened to "Bring Me to Life" by Evanescence. I don't expect MICROSOFT to know that too, unless I use a Microsoft music service.
- clebio 10y agoThanks for that. I _still_ can't tell, from looking through it -- are they going to stop harvesting wifi access point passwords? That alone (along with many of the other items) is a non-starter.
- Amezarak 10y agoIt seems misleading to describe Wi-Fi Sense has harvesting passwords - that's a side effect and not the purpose. That said, I'm not sure if Microsoft still stores Wi-Fi passwords at all; if they do, they removed the primary benefit: Wi-Fi passwords can no longer be shared. The Wi-Fi Sense privacy page only talks about open networks now. If they still store Wi-Fi passwords on their servers, it must be only used for profile sync. I can't find any information one way or another. https://privacy.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-10-about-wifi-sense https://privacy.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-10-about-wifi-se...
- clebio 10y agoA lot of what Microsoft does regarding privacy is misleading.
- hendersoon 10y agoAbsolutely right that there's no /supported/ way to disable telemetry. However, it's your computer. You've got root. You can disable it via a third party program. I recommend this one: https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10 https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10
- nitrogen 10y agoHowever, it's your computer. You've got root. Is that even true anymore with SecureBoot?
- frik 10y agoAnd in all editions, there is a whitelist of IPs and Domains in kernel mode part of Win10. From their PR only the LTSB edition (most expensive one), allows one to disable all phone-home "features" (even there opt-out, and if you miss one, your bad) There is a reason Win7 goes still strong, and many are very carefully with recent patches of Win7 (which backport some phone-home features and degrade performance, like they did with WinXP3 in its last days). I am waiting until MSFT board member and lead managers get fired over this case. In the early 2000s, US went after adware and spyware distributers. Nowadays MSFT is the biggest adware and spyware distributer, please go after them. They should split MSFT up in two companies.