>> I found them useless for high-end dishwashers (both Mieles they recommended worked poorly) That seems to apply to all of their highly rated dishwashers -- w

>> I found them useless for high-end dishwashers (both Mieles they recommended worked poorly) That seems to apply to all of their highly rated dishwashers -- when you read the CR user comments, most of them got a lot of horrible user ratings. I don't know if it's the dishwasher segment, but it seems like dishwashers in general have gone downhill. I was also going to buy a higher end dishwasher but it was so hard to choose because of the negative user comments that I ended up getting a lower priced one that got decent reliability ratings. I didn't want to get a Bosch or Miele after reading the user reviews on CR. Having said all of that, if you've been using dishwashers since the 80s, it turns out your old habits can result in bad washes. I was used to scraping my dishes clean, but according to my research, you actually need your dishes to be soiled enough so the newer detergent pods can clean them properly. I was lucky I found that out or I'd be getting inconsistent wash results.