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>ZeniMax contends Carmack was responsible for the breakthroughs that transformed the Rift into a “powerful immersive virtual reality experience.” ...that was c

by rl3 10y ago

>ZeniMax contends Carmack was responsible for the breakthroughs that transformed the Rift into a “powerful immersive virtual reality experience.” ...that was completely trampled by the HTC Vive. It's like ZeniMax insists on squabbling over the scraps of a failure. To play devil's advocate, I suppose they didn't know this when they filed, and Oculus may still prove quite valuable in the future—but either way, they could probably start their own VR program for what their legal bills are going to cost in the end.

drzaiusapelord 10y ago
Worse, the Vive has leapfrogged them with wireless support, additional trackers, etc. I feel like there's an elephant in the room when discussion the value or 'success' of the Rift. I don't think most consumers casually interested in VR realize how behind those guys are. I do see the Oculus/Rift branding being repurposed for a Facebook social experience, if not an entire platform for phones to support, but in the realm of PC gaming or anything that requires desktop GPU/CPU levels of power, I imagine they'll always be second fiddle and will be surprised if they last much longer. Tim Sweeney is claiming the Vive outsells the Rift 2-to-1 right now. That's damning for a company with Facebook heft behind it and several years of community engagement, developer kits, hype, etc which ultimately when up against a product that came out of nowhere but delivered everything on day one: controllers, roomscale, good fov, amazing tracking, immersion, etc as well as trivially being able to do seated/standing experiences.
- serge2k 10y ago
  > That's damning for a company with Facebook heft behind it That's not great when their target market is gamers, a large number of whom distrust facebook, love valve, hate the idea of a VR device trying to become a walled garden, and are generally entitled jerks who will whine and cry and talk about how they are never buying an oculus product because palmer lied about the price/sold out to facebook/whatever.
carlosdp 10y ago
Ehh, I agree the Vive is way better when it comes to tracking technology, but Vive and Oculus are basically at parity otherwise with Oculus having the upper-hand when it comes to ergonomics and design of the headset and controllers. Oculus is far from dead in the water and is definitely very valuable, especially with their lead in the performance software space with Asynchronous Timewarp/Spacewarp. They'll lag behind Vive in global sales for a while because FB doesn't have a foothold in Asia yet, but Vive vs Oculus is definitely an active competition.

by rl3 10y ago

drzaiusapelord 10y ago

Worse, the Vive has leapfrogged them with wireless support, additional trackers, etc. I feel like there's an elephant in the room when discussion the value or 'success' of the Rift. I don't think most consumers casually interested in VR realize how behind those guys are. I do see the Oculus/Rift branding being repurposed for a Facebook social experience, if not an entire platform for phones to support, but in the realm of PC gaming or anything that requires desktop GPU/CPU levels of power, I imagine they'll always be second fiddle and will be surprised if they last much longer. Tim Sweeney is claiming the Vive outsells the Rift 2-to-1 right now. That's damning for a company with Facebook heft behind it and several years of community engagement, developer kits, hype, etc which ultimately when up against a product that came out of nowhere but delivered everything on day one: controllers, roomscale, good fov, amazing tracking, immersion, etc as well as trivially being able to do seated/standing experiences.

serge2k 10y ago
> That's damning for a company with Facebook heft behind it That's not great when their target market is gamers, a large number of whom distrust facebook, love valve, hate the idea of a VR device trying to become a walled garden, and are generally entitled jerks who will whine and cry and talk about how they are never buying an oculus product because palmer lied about the price/sold out to facebook/whatever.

carlosdp 10y ago

Ehh, I agree the Vive is way better when it comes to tracking technology, but Vive and Oculus are basically at parity otherwise with Oculus having the upper-hand when it comes to ergonomics and design of the headset and controllers. Oculus is far from dead in the water and is definitely very valuable, especially with their lead in the performance software space with Asynchronous Timewarp/Spacewarp. They'll lag behind Vive in global sales for a while because FB doesn't have a foothold in Asia yet, but Vive vs Oculus is definitely an active competition.