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>A oft-used retort is developers are not a priority demographic anymore Apple would be foolish to believe this. A lot of the MBP's "sex appeal" is the fact tha

>A oft-used retort is developers are not a priority demographic anymore Apple would be foolish to believe this. A lot of the MBP's "sex appeal" is the fact that it is so widely used among developers and creatives. Similar to professional athletes all using one brand of tennis shoe. The effect is that the masses will see it as the top quality product and want to buy it. If everyone shows up at conferences next year with Thinkpads (although I wouldn't count on it) they might start noticing.

snowwrestler 10y ago
Where are the creative professionals loudly declaring that they're leaving Apple over the new MacBook Pro? The graphic designers I know are optimistic about the Touch Bar.
- graeme 10y ago
  Are you on forums for creative professionals? A good friend is a videographer who uses everything apple. He's seriously concerned by the lack of ports. I run an online business, write and make videos. I'm also concerned by the lack of ports and by the lack of a consistent set of keys on the touchbar. Neither of us are thinking of switching, but we're in "wait and see". I bought a macbook pro for a project last year, and was planning to upgrade when the new model came out. Haven't - the new one doesn't seem compelling. And people have bought macs and iphones due to my influence. Apple is foolish to ignore the professional demographic.
- exergy 10y ago
  In fairness, there is much for creative professionals to like about the new MBP, if youtube reviews are to be believed. On the other hand, Ballmer was perhaps cartoonish but not idiotic when he trampled around the stage yelling "Developers!". Software developers are hugely important, and should be to Apple. It's trite but worth repeating: no one wants to use an operating system. People want to use the software that runs on the operating system.
- nickv 10y ago
  Really? Most of the graphic designers I know are, at best, not deeply offended by the touch bar. I can't say a single one I've talked to was excited about it. You know what all my graphic designer friends are losing their shit over? The new Microsoft Surface Studio. The excitement my visual artist and graphic artist friends have for the Studio and Dial should terrify Apple. But Apple seems to have forgotten who their influencers are.
Joeri 10y ago
The thing with apple laptops is that they always combined great specs with great looks, which used to be rare. I've been using thinkpads for a number of years now. They're solid machines with good hardware, but they're ugly. I still am very happy with my t460p. Great screen, great keyboard, top of the line specs (with ram expandable to 32gb!), and compact 14" form factor. But yeah ... ugly. People who care about how it looks won't be getting thinkpads, but dell's xps 13, or lenovo's yoga line.

snowwrestler 10y ago

Where are the creative professionals loudly declaring that they're leaving Apple over the new MacBook Pro? The graphic designers I know are optimistic about the Touch Bar.

graeme 10y ago
Are you on forums for creative professionals? A good friend is a videographer who uses everything apple. He's seriously concerned by the lack of ports. I run an online business, write and make videos. I'm also concerned by the lack of ports and by the lack of a consistent set of keys on the touchbar. Neither of us are thinking of switching, but we're in "wait and see". I bought a macbook pro for a project last year, and was planning to upgrade when the new model came out. Haven't - the new one doesn't seem compelling. And people have bought macs and iphones due to my influence. Apple is foolish to ignore the professional demographic.
exergy 10y ago
In fairness, there is much for creative professionals to like about the new MBP, if youtube reviews are to be believed. On the other hand, Ballmer was perhaps cartoonish but not idiotic when he trampled around the stage yelling "Developers!". Software developers are hugely important, and should be to Apple. It's trite but worth repeating: no one wants to use an operating system. People want to use the software that runs on the operating system.
nickv 10y ago
Really? Most of the graphic designers I know are, at best, not deeply offended by the touch bar. I can't say a single one I've talked to was excited about it. You know what all my graphic designer friends are losing their shit over? The new Microsoft Surface Studio. The excitement my visual artist and graphic artist friends have for the Studio and Dial should terrify Apple. But Apple seems to have forgotten who their influencers are.

Joeri 10y ago

The thing with apple laptops is that they always combined great specs with great looks, which used to be rare. I've been using thinkpads for a number of years now. They're solid machines with good hardware, but they're ugly. I still am very happy with my t460p. Great screen, great keyboard, top of the line specs (with ram expandable to 32gb!), and compact 14" form factor. But yeah ... ugly. People who care about how it looks won't be getting thinkpads, but dell's xps 13, or lenovo's yoga line.