They are not a way to preserve effective democracy. That's not what I was getting at. I was getting at the fact that it would be someone else who would install

They are not a way to preserve effective democracy. That's not what I was getting at. I was getting at the fact that it would be someone else who would install dictators instead. It would be Russia or China. The outcome will be different, but the problems will not get solved. In fact it may be worse. When you have many people playing, then the jockey for position and cause even more chaos.