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I'm confused by your comment. Why would you have to re-install your OS because of a problem with X? X doesn't typically save a configuration, it doesn't keep a

by mgbmtl 10y ago

I'm confused by your comment. Why would you have to re-install your OS because of a problem with X? X doesn't typically save a configuration, it doesn't keep a registry, etc. Its settings get regenerated when it boots. Maybe you're encountering application configuration issues? Deleting/re-creating your user account should be enough (or finding the Gnome/KDE/other configuration that is causing problem, but I agree that can be hard to find). If your experience is mostly with Apple hardware, which I haven't used in a while, then you're taking a risk. The manufacturer/distributor is not playing nice with the community. I use mostly Intel generic hardware (including Intel video cards). At worst, I had to use Debian "testing" for the first few months after buying new hardware. Wayland fixes issues in the Linux security model, but otherwise I don't know how well it does on hardware where the manufacturer isn't contributing. You need to direct that feedback to the people to whom you gave a lot of money :/

mnm1 10y ago
I don't have to reinstall; I just don't have the patience to debug and fix X when it fails. I've definitely had plenty of problems with every single window manager I've ever tried which true, is not X itself, but plenty of the problems have been with graphics and input devices which X does handle. To be complete and clear then, the whole GUI system based on X, including X itself and window managers, has never been stable for me. I'm not sure what you mean by "doesn't typically save a configuration." It definitely needs one to run properly (xorg.conf). As far as manufacturers, I've tried running this on Apple, Dell, Gateway, and desktop boxes I built over the years. There isn't much of a difference between any of them.
- csdreamer7 10y ago
  You can download Fedora 25 which uses Wayland on Intel graphics. With that said I haven't had any real issues with X itself in a long time. It is usually with the drivers in Mesa/Nvidia or the kernel with newer hardware which eventually gets fixed.
- phaemon 10y ago
  > I'm not sure what you mean by "doesn't typically save a configuration." It doesn't save a configuration by default. It gets the recommended resolution from the display and uses that. You can set custom resolutions from xorg.conf, or more easily with a ~/.xsession file but it's not required if you are happy with the defaults for your monitor. > It definitely needs one to run properly (xorg.conf). Nope, not for many years.

by mgbmtl 10y ago

mnm1 10y ago

I don't have to reinstall; I just don't have the patience to debug and fix X when it fails. I've definitely had plenty of problems with every single window manager I've ever tried which true, is not X itself, but plenty of the problems have been with graphics and input devices which X does handle. To be complete and clear then, the whole GUI system based on X, including X itself and window managers, has never been stable for me. I'm not sure what you mean by "doesn't typically save a configuration." It definitely needs one to run properly (xorg.conf). As far as manufacturers, I've tried running this on Apple, Dell, Gateway, and desktop boxes I built over the years. There isn't much of a difference between any of them.

csdreamer7 10y ago
You can download Fedora 25 which uses Wayland on Intel graphics. With that said I haven't had any real issues with X itself in a long time. It is usually with the drivers in Mesa/Nvidia or the kernel with newer hardware which eventually gets fixed.
phaemon 10y ago
> I'm not sure what you mean by "doesn't typically save a configuration." It doesn't save a configuration by default. It gets the recommended resolution from the display and uses that. You can set custom resolutions from xorg.conf, or more easily with a ~/.xsession file but it's not required if you are happy with the defaults for your monitor. > It definitely needs one to run properly (xorg.conf). Nope, not for many years.