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I would of liked to been told `Nothing is going to come on the market` instead of `All this wonderful technology is going to solve any problems you're going to
by hackits 10y ago
I would of liked to been told `Nothing is going to come on the market` instead of `All this wonderful technology is going to solve any problems you're going to have`. The latter results in careless behavior, the former results more careful behavior.
Personally as someone as a kid was going up out-back Australia who's parents and care giver didn't put fluoride tablets into the water because it caused the water to `taste bad`. As a result I have screwed up teeth. Discussed this with this with my parents years later. Their reasoning for my teeth problem was poor diet and eating sugary food (Completely ignoring the fact they tossed the tablets into the bin).
Fast forward into the future with a family and two children I don't have soft drink, fruit juice in the house. Who would of known, all the kids teeth are great since our last dentist visit.
- poikniok 10y agoFluoride decreases IQ significantly, be thankful that at least you are intelligent, albeit with bad teeth.
- sathackr 10y agoSource?
- vanattab 10y agoThe practice of fluoride in drinking water does seem to be getting some push back of late. I did a quick google scholar search for "fluoride drinking water" and found some articles on both sides.
- delecti 10y agoSo does the practice of vaccinations, and without strong evidence that it's not safe, I'm inclined to take the lack of such evidence as significant, in light of the abundance of evidence that it seems to be helpful.
- throwaway91111 10y agoWhile I can't source the IQ claim, the evidence "showing" that fluoridation is safe to drink (as opposed to measuring by tooth health) is fairly scarce. OTOH I've heard teeth are especially poor around Portland Oregon where they don't fluoride the water. I'd simply say the jury is still out. I tend to think of iq claims specifically with a particularly large grain of salt: it's an index of society that people follow closely and is related to many, many factors.
- MagnumOpus 10y agohttps://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/features/fluoride-childrens-health-grandjean-choi/ https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/features/fluoride-children...
- wishinghand 10y agoAw shucks, I'm merely intelligent, rather than a genius?
- mrob 10y agoRegardless of whether fluoride is a serious risk or not, it seems ridiculous to take a topical drug systemically. Fluoride works by inorganic reactions with the teeth themselves. There's no benefit to flooding the whole body with it. It's reasonable to be suspicious of water fluoridation when the same benefit can be achieved with fluoridated toothpastes, which deliver the fluoride only where it's needed.
- popinman322 10y agoAs someone who grew up on well water with no fluoride in it I can confirm that my teeth are looking fine after all these years of regular dental checkups and twice daily tooth-brushing.
- olejorgenb 10y agoFluoride occurs naturally (in varying concentrations) in water. Water with high natural concentrations is how we found out fluoride prevents tooth decay in the first place.
- olejorgenb 10y agoThat is a good point, but according to http://www.ada.org/~/media/ADA/Member%20Center/FIles/fluoridation_facts.ashx http://www.ada.org/~/media/ADA/Member%20Center/FIles/fluorid... (p.10) "Systemic fluorides can also give topical protection because ingested fluoride is present in saliva, which continually bathes the teeth providing a reservoir of fluoride that can be incorporated into the tooth surface to prevent decay." It also says fluoride ingested during teeth-formation is incorporated into the teeth.
- pasquinelli 10y agoi'd rather be stupid than have bad teeth.
- user837387 10y agoDidn't you use toothpaste with fluoride? Or is that not enough?
- hackits 10y agoUsed toothpaste with fluoride. Though the fridge was constantly stoked with sugar, fruit juice, bread and bread toppings. Kid of ironic that my Mum is a dietitian who is mobility obese.
- throwaway91111 10y agoReasearch indicates that fluorided water is better at covering the surface area of your teeth--brushing with toothpaste mostly removes the layer of plaque and allows the active ingredient to work better. It's actually phenomenal how little dental research has ever reached consumer behavior or dental care.
- Arizhel 10y agoInstead of fluoridated water, you can always just use fluoride mouthwash/rinse which many dentists now recommend to be used daily. Personally I only drink RO water as tap water tastes bad to me, but I use a fluoride mouthwash (Crest) every night after brushing and flossing.
- kalleboo 10y agoMost of Europe and Japan doesn't fluoridate their water and they don't have notably worse dental outcomes. It really has to do with toothbrushing and diet. Water fluoridation is just a way to get to the people who refuse to brush their teeth.
- stplsd 10y agoI think genetics have a part too. My grandmother was deported to Siberia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_deportations_from_Lithuania https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_deportations_from_Lithu...) for 20 years where they have 200 grams of bread a day at best and never brushed her teeth in her life and never had a tooth filling or missing tooth before her retirement, and I have half my teeth missing and I am only 30 years old. Fuck my life.
- torinmr 10y agoCould that also be related to diet? I'm guessing your grandmother practically never ate sugar if she was living on 200 grams of bread a day. I've also heard that early modern humans had fairly good teeth for their age despite the presumed lack of dental care, presumably also due to differences in their diet from us.
- Cerium 10y agoDiet is super important. I used to drink orange juice every day. I got a cavity every 6 months. I have stopped drinking orange juice and have not had a cavity since.
- filoeleven 10y agoI just heard a radio piece about how basically all humans had Hollywood smiles (where the teeth lined up perfectly) until the Industrial Revolution, when our jaws began to shrink and there was no longer enough room for all the teeth. I didn't get to hear the part where they discussed/hypothesized whether the changes were due to diet or environment or something else.
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- robbiep 10y agoI grew up in rural Australia, my parents fed us fluoride tablets when we were young. 1-2 fillings between 3 siblings, although I'm fairly sure our bore had a bit of fluoride in it. I'm sorry you missed out on that, teeth problems are shitty
- Ftuuky 10y agoSame here but in Switzerland. 4 fillings between 3 brothers (2 are mine).