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We need to open our borders and let anyone who wants to come live and work in the US come here. Fear of foreigners is a poison in the heart of this country. Pre

by ebbv 10y ago

We need to open our borders and let anyone who wants to come live and work in the US come here. Fear of foreigners is a poison in the heart of this country. Previous generations of immigrants have made the US what it is. The H1B program benefits the companies at the expense of the people for b.s. reasons. I say let anyone come here who wants to and if they can hold a job for 5 years and they pay taxes make them a citizen. People are generally good and xenophobia is stupid.

politician 10y ago
This is a dangerous idea. Let everyone in, and then watch housing prices shoot to infinity. Let everyone in, and watch cities deteriorate into slums with the associated no-go areas and warlords. Let everyone in, let them drive wages to zero. Let everyone starve. This is what you're advocating? > Previous generations of immigrants have made the US what it is. Previous generations had a physical barrier in the form of transportation costs to the US. Today, we have airplanes and autos. Transportation costs are a fraction of what they were in the Ellis Island era. Have you seen the housing situation in Rio? The food lines in Venezuela? The intense poverty in India? The pollution in China? We don't have the technological or social controls to handle the affects of high population density that would be the result of accepting your Open Borders proposal.
- ebbv 10y ago
  Your xenophobia is really sad. The US won't turn into Venezuela, Brazil or China because immigrants come here. Additionally, jobs won't go to zero because more population creates more demand for goods and services which necessitates more jobs. This same absurd argument you're making was used to stoke fears about Irish and Italian immigrants in the past. Now we realize how stupid it was then. It's just as stupid now.
  - politician 10y ago
    How many people do you think would take advantage of your opportunity? How quickly would we expect them to act?
    - ousta 10y ago
      isn't the US already taking advantage of middle east, europe and pretty much everyone its trading with? the dollar being the global money is enough a sign.
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dragonwriter 10y ago
> We need to open our borders and let anyone who wants to come live and work in the US come here. No, we don't. As well as the fact that there are genuine undesirables that should be denied entry, there are costs associated with level of immigration that need to be addressed. There are, I think, clearly better ways of dealing with that than the particulars of our current system of categories and quotas, and the best would not, IMO, have hard limitd, but immigration with no controls is not a reasonable answer.

by ebbv 10y ago

politician 10y ago

This is a dangerous idea. Let everyone in, and then watch housing prices shoot to infinity. Let everyone in, and watch cities deteriorate into slums with the associated no-go areas and warlords. Let everyone in, let them drive wages to zero. Let everyone starve. This is what you're advocating? > Previous generations of immigrants have made the US what it is. Previous generations had a physical barrier in the form of transportation costs to the US. Today, we have airplanes and autos. Transportation costs are a fraction of what they were in the Ellis Island era. Have you seen the housing situation in Rio? The food lines in Venezuela? The intense poverty in India? The pollution in China? We don't have the technological or social controls to handle the affects of high population density that would be the result of accepting your Open Borders proposal.

ebbv 10y ago
Your xenophobia is really sad. The US won't turn into Venezuela, Brazil or China because immigrants come here. Additionally, jobs won't go to zero because more population creates more demand for goods and services which necessitates more jobs. This same absurd argument you're making was used to stoke fears about Irish and Italian immigrants in the past. Now we realize how stupid it was then. It's just as stupid now.
- politician 10y ago
  How many people do you think would take advantage of your opportunity? How quickly would we expect them to act?
  - ousta 10y ago
    isn't the US already taking advantage of middle east, europe and pretty much everyone its trading with? the dollar being the global money is enough a sign.
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dragonwriter 10y ago

> We need to open our borders and let anyone who wants to come live and work in the US come here. No, we don't. As well as the fact that there are genuine undesirables that should be denied entry, there are costs associated with level of immigration that need to be addressed. There are, I think, clearly better ways of dealing with that than the particulars of our current system of categories and quotas, and the best would not, IMO, have hard limitd, but immigration with no controls is not a reasonable answer.