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Python and vim: Two great tastes that go great together

45 points by mace 16y ago

lanstein 16y ago
fyi, title is cut off on first slide, if you're the original author. (ff 3.6 os x 1920x1200)
kennu 16y ago
Presentation seems to be ancient and the Python code is fugly with camelCased identifiers. :-/
MWinther 16y ago
Wow, this is great stuff! As always with slides online, I wish I could get a transcript or even better a recording of the original presentation! I'm currently trying to switch to vim for all my editing, this certainly opens up a few doors to further customization.
- mace 16y ago
  This presentation was given at PyCon 2007. There doesn't seem to be a recording of it online, however.
- Locke1689 16y ago
  Try toggling the Javascript off. All the text is there in one page. As a side note, I love this presentation script.
  - RyanMcGreal 16y ago
    This is Eric Meyer's S5: http://meyerweb.com/eric/tools/s5/ http://meyerweb.com/eric/tools/s5/
RyanMcGreal 16y ago
Trying to install vim-python on Ubuntu 10.04 generates this message: Package vim-python is a virtual package provided by: vim-nox 2:7.2.330-1ubuntu3 vim-gtk 2:7.2.330-1ubuntu3 vim-gnome 2:7.2.330-1ubuntu3 You should explicitly select one to install. E: Package vim-python has no installation candidate Any suggestions?
- thristian 16y ago
  If you're using standard GNOME-based Ubuntu (not Kubuntu or Xubuntu), then you probably want vim-gnome.
- teilo 16y ago
  This means that you need to install vim itself first, but there are three packages for vim. Use vim-nox if you don't care about the GUI. It does what it says: just installs vim, without gvim running on X. Then you can install vim-python.
thristian 16y ago
I've recently spent a little time working on a Python-based GPG module for Vim, and I have to say the Python <-> Vim interface is... clunky. You do get a very basic object for navigating the current structure of open tabs, panes and buffers, but when it comes to interacting with Vim, the Python code is literally reduced to pushing keystrokes at it. Whatever the user would type at the keyboard, you have to put into a string and send - with no assistance for proper quoting or anything. Given that "add integration with Python instead of inventing more Vim script" has been near the top of the feature-vote results for quite a while, I hope the situation will get better soon: http://vim.sourceforge.net/sponsor/vote_results.php http://vim.sourceforge.net/sponsor/vote_results.php
10ren 16y ago
Cute idea, vim script is... unintuitive, and reminiscent of bash. But, similar to Javascript in a browser, half the battle is knowing the environment (ie vim's internals, analogous to DOM for js).

45 points by mace 16y ago

lanstein 16y ago

fyi, title is cut off on first slide, if you're the original author. (ff 3.6 os x 1920x1200)

kennu 16y ago

Presentation seems to be ancient and the Python code is fugly with camelCased identifiers. :-/

MWinther 16y ago

Wow, this is great stuff! As always with slides online, I wish I could get a transcript or even better a recording of the original presentation! I'm currently trying to switch to vim for all my editing, this certainly opens up a few doors to further customization.

mace 16y ago
This presentation was given at PyCon 2007. There doesn't seem to be a recording of it online, however.
Locke1689 16y ago
Try toggling the Javascript off. All the text is there in one page. As a side note, I love this presentation script.
- RyanMcGreal 16y ago
  This is Eric Meyer's S5: http://meyerweb.com/eric/tools/s5/ http://meyerweb.com/eric/tools/s5/

RyanMcGreal 16y ago

Trying to install vim-python on Ubuntu 10.04 generates this message: Package vim-python is a virtual package provided by: vim-nox 2:7.2.330-1ubuntu3 vim-gtk 2:7.2.330-1ubuntu3 vim-gnome 2:7.2.330-1ubuntu3 You should explicitly select one to install. E: Package vim-python has no installation candidate Any suggestions?

thristian 16y ago
If you're using standard GNOME-based Ubuntu (not Kubuntu or Xubuntu), then you probably want vim-gnome.
teilo 16y ago
This means that you need to install vim itself first, but there are three packages for vim. Use vim-nox if you don't care about the GUI. It does what it says: just installs vim, without gvim running on X. Then you can install vim-python.

thristian 16y ago

I've recently spent a little time working on a Python-based GPG module for Vim, and I have to say the Python <-> Vim interface is... clunky. You do get a very basic object for navigating the current structure of open tabs, panes and buffers, but when it comes to interacting with Vim, the Python code is literally reduced to pushing keystrokes at it. Whatever the user would type at the keyboard, you have to put into a string and send - with no assistance for proper quoting or anything. Given that "add integration with Python instead of inventing more Vim script" has been near the top of the feature-vote results for quite a while, I hope the situation will get better soon: http://vim.sourceforge.net/sponsor/vote_results.php http://vim.sourceforge.net/sponsor/vote_results.php

10ren 16y ago

Cute idea, vim script is... unintuitive, and reminiscent of bash. But, similar to Javascript in a browser, half the battle is knowing the environment (ie vim's internals, analogous to DOM for js).