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>Keep your mouth shut and blow off steam at the gym, bar, or therapist like everyone else. I don't think I've ever seen a bigger example of a statement against

by ue_ 10y ago

>Keep your mouth shut and blow off steam at the gym, bar, or therapist like everyone else. I don't think I've ever seen a bigger example of a statement against worker's rights than this. This is exactly something you'd expect your boss to say.

chrissnell 10y ago
Workers' rights? Which country is this? In the U.S., you have a right to a physically safe work environment free of harassment and discrimination (explicitly defined protected classes) and to be paid for the work you do. You don't have a "right" to a non-asshole boss, a happy and fulfilling work environment, or the right to express your opinion at work. Job satisfaction is not a "universal human right".
- toomuchtodo 10y ago
  Workers rights are whatever we decide them to be collectively. How do we do this? We apply pressure on employers and vote in candidates who support labor rights. How do you think we got to a five day work week? 40 hours a week? We just keep turning the ratchet. PS you have a right to a non-asshole boss. You're buying someone's time, not their dignity.
- deleted 10y ago
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- dexterdog 10y ago
  Not yet.
- crpatino 10y ago
  I think you are confusing "rights" with "entitlement". Everyone have as much rights to a non-asshole boss as they want, but in order to materialize that right they need the courage to stand up to their current bosses' BS. Which is exactly what the GP post is saying. "Keeping your mouth shut" is an option, but unless you are doing it as part of a bigger strategy it is a very bad option and either of the other two would be preferable. If you accept as true the statement that reads "like everybody else", it means that too many people are taking the bad options and that most of they do not have any particular reason to do it besides cowardice. This is a problem for the rest of us, - specially the ones that want to make changes from within, - because it validates the bad bosses' behavior. And just to be clear, to "shut your mouth" strategically is, in my mind, a form of delayed action. You do not accept the BS because you have surrendered to authority; you just avoid conflict in the short term to have peace of mind while you prepare your exit.
mattbroekhuis 10y ago
I mean, it was probably the worst option on the list other than what the actual site in question does

by ue_ 10y ago

chrissnell 10y ago

Workers' rights? Which country is this? In the U.S., you have a right to a physically safe work environment free of harassment and discrimination (explicitly defined protected classes) and to be paid for the work you do. You don't have a "right" to a non-asshole boss, a happy and fulfilling work environment, or the right to express your opinion at work. Job satisfaction is not a "universal human right".

toomuchtodo 10y ago
Workers rights are whatever we decide them to be collectively. How do we do this? We apply pressure on employers and vote in candidates who support labor rights. How do you think we got to a five day work week? 40 hours a week? We just keep turning the ratchet. PS you have a right to a non-asshole boss. You're buying someone's time, not their dignity.
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dexterdog 10y ago
Not yet.
crpatino 10y ago
I think you are confusing "rights" with "entitlement". Everyone have as much rights to a non-asshole boss as they want, but in order to materialize that right they need the courage to stand up to their current bosses' BS. Which is exactly what the GP post is saying. "Keeping your mouth shut" is an option, but unless you are doing it as part of a bigger strategy it is a very bad option and either of the other two would be preferable. If you accept as true the statement that reads "like everybody else", it means that too many people are taking the bad options and that most of they do not have any particular reason to do it besides cowardice. This is a problem for the rest of us, - specially the ones that want to make changes from within, - because it validates the bad bosses' behavior. And just to be clear, to "shut your mouth" strategically is, in my mind, a form of delayed action. You do not accept the BS because you have surrendered to authority; you just avoid conflict in the short term to have peace of mind while you prepare your exit.

mattbroekhuis 10y ago

I mean, it was probably the worst option on the list other than what the actual site in question does