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Nearly every company I've worked for eventually brings in the Atlassian bullshit despite my protest. It usually begins with hiring some project manager who lik
by tiglionabbit 10y ago
Nearly every company I've worked for eventually brings in the Atlassian bullshit despite my protest. It usually begins with hiring some project manager who likes Atlassian and forces the hire of an Atlassian shill to configure Atlassian products full time, but it never becomes any good. They pry us off our existing issue tracker and wiki (github, trac) and force us to use that awful content-editable-based wiki that destroys the document differently in every browser, then tell us not to use Chrome because clearly Chrome is the problem. Witch-hunts begin about who screwed up the wiki formatting. Everything breaks if you press the back button. And then inevitably somebody forgot to give somebody permission for something and now everyone with permission is out of town so nothing can be done.
You can get a better wysiwyg wiki just by sharing a folder in Google Docs and having them link to each other. And I'd take Trello over "greenhopper" any day.
- allover 10y agoThis probably doesn't need saying, but seems you work in toxic teams. Your first paragraph suggests a ton of blame is being thrown about. If you work at a company like that, get out. (That of course, or you suck at empathy for your managers, and you're the problem). The place I work at, Jira is used pretty reasonably. Our devs, in 2 different teams have setup the workflows to show our progress and deployment flow in ways we prefer. The project managers use those workflows happily, they just want them to reflect reality. I'd rather use Trello, but honestly I'm trying to communicate the work I've done to my proj. managers, so the right tool is basically whatever works for them, not me.
- flukus 10y ago> If you work at a company like that, get out. IME, this is most teams. If you get out you are likely moving into another team that's much the same.
- tiglionabbit 10y agoYep. I tended to get into a bunch of early-stage startups. They used to be cool, then they brought in some new management. You never know what things are going to turn into.
- nimchimpsky 10y ago"I'd rather use Trello"
- fuck_google 10y agoGood PM works for the team, not vice versa.
- krzyk 10y agoI've been in a similar place but with Trello and Jira/Confluence switched. Product owneres tried to force developers to use Trello, while we wanted to use Jira with greenhoper. I really didn't understand what was so fun about Trello, I prefer Jira any time for product planning, Trello for me looks like another sticky notes app.
- tiglionabbit 10y agoIt is a simple sticky notes app. But do you really need anything more than that?
- nimchimpsky 10y agothis +1
- _ao789 10y agoAmen!
- tedmiston 10y agoI once wrote a plugin that copied a Jira sprint into a Trello board and created all of the cards and labeled them to try to find the best of both worlds.