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How do you measure who is "top professional player"? Is this list COMPLETELY inaccurate? Why? Has it ever been? Which list is better? https://www.highstakesdb

• jat850 10y ago
  All-time winnings is not the best measurement as it doesn't take into account things like years played/measured, single individual large wins, etc. It's a decent list for one mode of inspection (winnings) but shouldn't automatically be taken as a ranking of players by skill. Ivey is a very good player, for sure. In the context of HU play (as being discussed in the article), there are better.
• TylerE 10y ago
  Top level play in poker evolves at a metagame rate as fast as any e-sport. https://www.highstakesdb.com/profiles/Phil-Ivey.aspx https://www.highstakesdb.com/profiles/Phil-Ivey.aspx Ivey's last big win was 2009, and his last win of any kind was in 2011.
  • gigabet 10y ago
    That looks much more like he quit playing online. Saying he 'just got lucky a few times' is very odd. Ivey is considered one of the top pros by virtually everyone. His live tourny stats: http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/player.php?a=r&n=127&_ga=1.181548647.1377913259.1483894742 http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/player.php?a=r&n=127&_ga=1.1... Beyond that, he (like many top pros), prioritizes lucrative cash games over tournament play (or exploiting an edge at baccarat, if the opportunity arises) which we can't track.