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> is like "affirmative action" version of pressure on a private entity, isn't it? Yes it is. > Why Diversity should ever be a goal? Diversity of expertise ma

> is like "affirmative action" version of pressure on a private entity, isn't it? Yes it is. > Why Diversity should ever be a goal? Diversity of expertise makes for better decisions, but that's not what's happening here. Putting priority on ethnic, cultural, diversity would make sense if these marked collectives have worse interview performance for the same work performance. I don't know if this is true and I don't want to discuss whether it is.

pc86 10y ago
> I don't know if this is true and I don't want to discuss whether it is. That's healthy.
- st3v3r 10y ago
  Probably because any discussion on here about that kind of stuff turns toxic pretty quickly.
  - pc86 10y ago
    It's one thing to say "I don't want to discuss this topic," even though that will inevitably leave you intellectually weaker for having not discussed your opinions or interacted with those who disagree. It's something else entirely to say "I don't know ______ but refuse to discuss it because reasons," which is what the GP did. That's what I took issue with. And people on both sides feel passionately. People can disagree passionately, that doesn't mean it's toxic. HN is very rarely, almost never toxic. If you want toxicity, try discussing this topic... literally anywhere else on the internet, or a lot of places offline. HN is actually the perfect place for this type of discourse because the community is largely not toxic. Unless you're referring to someone just getting downvoted for having an unpopular opinion, which I don't think you are.
    - st3v3r 10y ago
      I cannot disagree more on the idea that HN is "rarely toxic". Especially when it comes to the topics of discrimination and sexism. When those topics come up, the place is filled with "I didn't see it, so it doesn't exist," and "But... but what about white males? They're clearly the most discriminated against." So I'm not going to fault anyone for not wanting to discuss those topics on a place that routinely becomes toxic when discussing them.

pc86 10y ago

> I don't know if this is true and I don't want to discuss whether it is. That's healthy.

st3v3r 10y ago
Probably because any discussion on here about that kind of stuff turns toxic pretty quickly.
- pc86 10y ago
  It's one thing to say "I don't want to discuss this topic," even though that will inevitably leave you intellectually weaker for having not discussed your opinions or interacted with those who disagree. It's something else entirely to say "I don't know ______ but refuse to discuss it because reasons," which is what the GP did. That's what I took issue with. And people on both sides feel passionately. People can disagree passionately, that doesn't mean it's toxic. HN is very rarely, almost never toxic. If you want toxicity, try discussing this topic... literally anywhere else on the internet, or a lot of places offline. HN is actually the perfect place for this type of discourse because the community is largely not toxic. Unless you're referring to someone just getting downvoted for having an unpopular opinion, which I don't think you are.
  - st3v3r 10y ago
    I cannot disagree more on the idea that HN is "rarely toxic". Especially when it comes to the topics of discrimination and sexism. When those topics come up, the place is filled with "I didn't see it, so it doesn't exist," and "But... but what about white males? They're clearly the most discriminated against." So I'm not going to fault anyone for not wanting to discuss those topics on a place that routinely becomes toxic when discussing them.