Ah, I see. Yes, I agree with you on that. Except maybe there's a system for which that's really true, and you and I prevent us from ever getting to that system

Ah, I see. Yes, I agree with you on that. Except maybe there's a system for which that's really true, and you and I prevent us from ever getting to that system because we reject arguments like this on the basis of form? Oh dear ;-)