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That is always being repeated, but I wonder if it still holds up with modern systems like the iron dome, and especially laser weapons that are being tested righ

by Avalaxy 10y ago

That is always being repeated, but I wonder if it still holds up with modern systems like the iron dome, and especially laser weapons that are being tested right now. A combination of pre-emptive strikes on NK's artillery, combined with anti-artillery radars and a laser weapons air defense network could render NK powerless. Edit: that assumes that SK would be the 'liberator', but chances that it would be China are probably higher.

gambiting 10y ago
The thing is, that even if few % of their artillery/missiles get through, that can still mean hundreds of shots hitting Seoul and thousands of people dying. No one wants to take that risk.
Shivetya 10y ago
there was a study some time ago dismissing the most dire projections of these artillery pieces http://nautilus.org/napsnet/napsnet-special-reports/mind-the-gap-between-rhetoric-and-reality/ http://nautilus.org/napsnet/napsnet-special-reports/mind-the... While they will end up killing lots of people and causing heavy economic damage the real inability to deliver on the threat that has been kept alive by those who want a stronger stance against North Korea is likely one reason they are pursuing nuclear weapons. They know they don't have a strong threat and they want one. Whether this is to truly for self protection or for aggression is for teh intelligence wonks to figure out
crdoconnor 10y ago
Iron dome is ridiculously ineffective even against home made rockets, with a success rate of about 5%: http://thebulletin.org/evidence-shows-iron-dome-not-working7318 http://thebulletin.org/evidence-shows-iron-dome-not-working7...
- redwood 10y ago
  While I agree it's not going to be effective against serious firepower, you may be looking at the percentage wrong. It uses computation to only target the subset of rockets that are bound for populated areas (as far as I understand). Thus the untargeted will are still "successes".
blakeyrat 10y ago
Perhaps eventually our technology will out-pace NK's artillery so that Seoul will be basically immune from attack. We're nowhere close to that at the moment. Iron Dome isn't even entirely effective against a few artillery pieces, and NK has something like 20,000. Most of them already pre-aimed at Seoul.
trhway 10y ago
as others have noted these capabilities are in their infancy right now and no match for the threat. Also don't forget that next after artillery fire the NK can march in couple millions of soldiers - short of nuclear strike there is no way of stopping such a mass of infantry.
- credit_guy 10y ago
  A marching soldier can be stopped with one bullet. I guess you mean these soldiers would come in some sort of armored vehicles, but those can be stopped by anti-armor guns. The task of stopping one million, or ten million soldiers is quite easy, if they are ill-equipped.

by Avalaxy 10y ago

gambiting 10y ago

The thing is, that even if few % of their artillery/missiles get through, that can still mean hundreds of shots hitting Seoul and thousands of people dying. No one wants to take that risk.

Shivetya 10y ago

there was a study some time ago dismissing the most dire projections of these artillery pieces http://nautilus.org/napsnet/napsnet-special-reports/mind-the-gap-between-rhetoric-and-reality/ http://nautilus.org/napsnet/napsnet-special-reports/mind-the... While they will end up killing lots of people and causing heavy economic damage the real inability to deliver on the threat that has been kept alive by those who want a stronger stance against North Korea is likely one reason they are pursuing nuclear weapons. They know they don't have a strong threat and they want one. Whether this is to truly for self protection or for aggression is for teh intelligence wonks to figure out

crdoconnor 10y ago

Iron dome is ridiculously ineffective even against home made rockets, with a success rate of about 5%: http://thebulletin.org/evidence-shows-iron-dome-not-working7318 http://thebulletin.org/evidence-shows-iron-dome-not-working7...

redwood 10y ago
While I agree it's not going to be effective against serious firepower, you may be looking at the percentage wrong. It uses computation to only target the subset of rockets that are bound for populated areas (as far as I understand). Thus the untargeted will are still "successes".

blakeyrat 10y ago

Perhaps eventually our technology will out-pace NK's artillery so that Seoul will be basically immune from attack. We're nowhere close to that at the moment. Iron Dome isn't even entirely effective against a few artillery pieces, and NK has something like 20,000. Most of them already pre-aimed at Seoul.

trhway 10y ago

as others have noted these capabilities are in their infancy right now and no match for the threat. Also don't forget that next after artillery fire the NK can march in couple millions of soldiers - short of nuclear strike there is no way of stopping such a mass of infantry.

credit_guy 10y ago
A marching soldier can be stopped with one bullet. I guess you mean these soldiers would come in some sort of armored vehicles, but those can be stopped by anti-armor guns. The task of stopping one million, or ten million soldiers is quite easy, if they are ill-equipped.