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I have not been closely following this scandal, so I was unaware that other car manufacturers have been indicted in emissions cheating. Could you share a source
by Pyxl101 10y ago
I have not been closely following this scandal, so I was unaware that other car manufacturers have been indicted in emissions cheating. Could you share a source with more information about this?
- davewritescode 10y agoNot even just emissions, lots of companies play software tricks to game efficiency numbers. Chevy and Ford have both played games with the manual V8 sports cars that locks out the 1 -> 2 shift and force the driver to go 1 -> 4 to save gas when the computer sees the car accelerating at the same rate as the EPA test. The funniest thing was the Ford would sell you a software update to defeat skip shift under the guise of a "performance tune", at least that's how I defeated it while still keeping my warranty.
- jdhn 10y agoI was under the impression that unless you bought an aftermarket tune the 1 -> 2 (and maybe even 1 -> 3) shift was always locked out no matter your rate of acceleration. Has this changed in the past few years?
- mcguire 10y agoNot on my 2002 Corvette. First gear and low throttle opening invokes CAGS, the computer assisted hear selection.
- robin_reala 10y agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_emissions_scandal#Transgressions_by_other_manufacturers https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_emissions_scandal#T... A French government report in 2016 investigated 86 different cars, and about 1/5th of those were found to comply with emission laws. Most did not.
- hx87 10y agoHow many of those are sold in the US?
- falkooo 10y agoHave a look at this talk of the latest CCC at 13:11 https://media.ccc.de/v/33c3-7904-software_defined_emissions https://media.ccc.de/v/33c3-7904-software_defined_emissions He talks about how it is possible that the cars achieve the low results in the testcycles but produce much higher emissions on the real road. The reverse engineering in the beginning of the task is also very interesting.
- CommanderData 10y agoI was about to post this. VW have been playing dirty tactics even after the scandal.
- holri 10y agoHe demonstrated the same for Opel / GM.
- AndyMcConachie 10y agoThe companion talk about how the Dieselgate cases are transpiring is also worth a watch. https://media.ccc.de/v/33c3-8131-dieselgate_a_year_later#video&t=81 https://media.ccc.de/v/33c3-8131-dieselgate_a_year_later#vid...
- saiya-jin 10y agoI thought it's a common knowledge most/all are doing it in one way or the other. Same as professional athletes in many sports, ie cycling - you cannot be really successful without any hacks/borderline cheating, it's more a matter of being few steps ahead of doping tests and current rules, thriving in the gray area. I simply don't believe anymore there are any clean athletes in first 3 places in any sport where there are significant money involved. And most people are happy to support this indirectly via their support of things like Olympics which became lately just hunt for sponsors. (I don't watch those anymore, rather will spend the time actually training, with friends, in the nature etc.) Same for cars.
- alex_duf 10y agoThat's an interesting parallel
- eli_gottlieb 10y agoWow. This makes me really glad I don't buy cars and don't patronize sports. What a load of crap!