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I completely agree with you. There are so many things that infuriate me about regular sites: - Images not having defined heights, leading to content jumping up

I completely agree with you. There are so many things that infuriate me about regular sites: - Images not having defined heights, leading to content jumping up as I'm reading - Ads loading and unloading, leading to the page jittering up and down erratically, making the content unreadable - Auto-playing videos: some start playing audio, some have the audio muted but still pause any music I have playing - Those ads that scroll up across the page (which wouldn't be a problem, but they scroll at a third of the speed that I drag them up at) - The "Read Full Story" buttons that animate the content downwards, freezing everything for a few seconds while the dumb animation plays - Web fonts taking an eternity to load, leaving me with no content for ten, fifteen, or more seconds - Web fonts loading unexpectedly and causing all the text to reflow, destroying my scroll position There are so many more things. But here's the thing: there are no ad-blockers for Chrome on Android. I can't turn this crap off. And overwhelmingly, I can't just pay someone money to make it stop. I would gladly hand over fifty bucks or more every month to read news in peace, but there's no centralized way to do that. AMP, at the very least, gets rid of these problems for me. Top bar and URL issues aside, clicking an AMP link is infinitely less frustrating than clicking a non-AMP link.

QuercusMax 10y ago
Even more annoying: when the entire article loads, I read the first couple paragraphs, THEN it hides everything behind the "Read Full Story" link! It's infuriating! AMP gives a great user experience on mobile, at least speed-wise. I haven't had any real complaints as a user. (Disclaimer: I work for a non-Google Alphabet company.)
- username223 10y ago
  > Disclaimer: I work for a non-Google Alphabet company. I.e. you work for Google, but not in advertising. The attempted rebranding has been awfully heavy-handed lately.
  - QuercusMax 10y ago
    My paycheck doesn't say Google. Call it rebranding if you like.
  - euyyn 10y ago
    I work for Google Cloud and I wouldn't call that advertising nor a "non-Google Alphabet company". So GP's distinction is useful and yours isn't.
    - username223 10y ago
      My bad -- I forgot that Google was also in the shared hosting business. What is a useful dividing line between "Google" and "Alphabet"?
      - QuercusMax 10y ago
        Alphabet is a holding company that trades under GOOG and GOOGL. Alphabet itself doesn't do a whole lot aside from allocate capital to its subsidiary companies. Aside from Google, Alphabet owns Calico, DeepMind, GV (formerly Google Ventures), CapitalG (formerly Google Capital), X, Google Fiber, Nest Labs, Jigsaw, Sidewalk Labs, Verily (formerly Google Life Sciences - my company) and Waymo. These things are all "Not Google". Google is everything that's owned/done by Google Inc. This includes Search, Ads, Chrome, Android, Google+, Google Cloud Platform, GSuite (GMail/Docs/Sheets/Slides/etc), and tons of other stuff.
        username223 10y ago
        Thanks. I would have expected that Google was either profit or surveillance, while Alphabet (i.e. not-Google) was the rest. It seems more like Google is "mostly not burning money," while not-Google is the rest.
jonathanyc 10y ago
Firefox on Android has full support for extensions, including uBlock Origin. I was surprised and very happy to discover this. Unfortunately it is a little less integrated.
arthurfm 10y ago
> there are no ad-blockers for Chrome on Android I use AdGuard [1] (which is a system-wide ad-blocker for Android that doesn't require root privileges) along with Brave [2] set as a custom tab provider in Chromer [3] to get rid of pretty much all ads in both apps and websites (regardless of browser). [1] https://adguard.com/en/adguard-android/overview.html https://adguard.com/en/adguard-android/overview.html [2] https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.brave.browser https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.brave.brow... [3] https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=arun.com.chromer https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=arun.com.chrom...
zeta0134 10y ago
I've been using Firefox on Android for pretty much exactly this reason. I have just one extension installed (uBlock Origin) which makes most sites perfectly readable. Once I got over the minor UI differences, I haven't missed Chrome since. My desktop is the opposite, but that's because my desktop has Chrome extensions.

QuercusMax 10y ago

Even more annoying: when the entire article loads, I read the first couple paragraphs, THEN it hides everything behind the "Read Full Story" link! It's infuriating! AMP gives a great user experience on mobile, at least speed-wise. I haven't had any real complaints as a user. (Disclaimer: I work for a non-Google Alphabet company.)

username223 10y ago
> Disclaimer: I work for a non-Google Alphabet company. I.e. you work for Google, but not in advertising. The attempted rebranding has been awfully heavy-handed lately.
- QuercusMax 10y ago
  My paycheck doesn't say Google. Call it rebranding if you like.
- euyyn 10y ago
  I work for Google Cloud and I wouldn't call that advertising nor a "non-Google Alphabet company". So GP's distinction is useful and yours isn't.
  - username223 10y ago
    My bad -- I forgot that Google was also in the shared hosting business. What is a useful dividing line between "Google" and "Alphabet"?
    - QuercusMax 10y ago
      Alphabet is a holding company that trades under GOOG and GOOGL. Alphabet itself doesn't do a whole lot aside from allocate capital to its subsidiary companies. Aside from Google, Alphabet owns Calico, DeepMind, GV (formerly Google Ventures), CapitalG (formerly Google Capital), X, Google Fiber, Nest Labs, Jigsaw, Sidewalk Labs, Verily (formerly Google Life Sciences - my company) and Waymo. These things are all "Not Google". Google is everything that's owned/done by Google Inc. This includes Search, Ads, Chrome, Android, Google+, Google Cloud Platform, GSuite (GMail/Docs/Sheets/Slides/etc), and tons of other stuff.
      - username223 10y ago
        Thanks. I would have expected that Google was either profit or surveillance, while Alphabet (i.e. not-Google) was the rest. It seems more like Google is "mostly not burning money," while not-Google is the rest.

jonathanyc 10y ago

Firefox on Android has full support for extensions, including uBlock Origin. I was surprised and very happy to discover this. Unfortunately it is a little less integrated.

arthurfm 10y ago

> there are no ad-blockers for Chrome on Android I use AdGuard [1] (which is a system-wide ad-blocker for Android that doesn't require root privileges) along with Brave [2] set as a custom tab provider in Chromer [3] to get rid of pretty much all ads in both apps and websites (regardless of browser). [1] https://adguard.com/en/adguard-android/overview.html https://adguard.com/en/adguard-android/overview.html [2] https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.brave.browser https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.brave.brow... [3] https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=arun.com.chromer https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=arun.com.chrom...

zeta0134 10y ago

I've been using Firefox on Android for pretty much exactly this reason. I have just one extension installed (uBlock Origin) which makes most sites perfectly readable. Once I got over the minor UI differences, I haven't missed Chrome since. My desktop is the opposite, but that's because my desktop has Chrome extensions.