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another analysis that suggests this might be airplanes. scroll to the comments, where they plug in GPS coordinates from the video into google early, and superim

another analysis that suggests this might be airplanes. scroll to the comments, where they plug in GPS coordinates from the video into google early, and superimpose the location of various flights from public records. https://www.metabunk.org/explanation-for-chilean-navy-ufo-video-aerodynamic-contrail.t8306/ https://www.metabunk.org/explanation-for-chilean-navy-ufo-vi...

Cyph0n 10y ago
The discussion is ongoing though. There are two possible candidate aircraft, but the distances and altitudes seem to be off.
- Semiapies 10y ago
  Three, now, and people putting in coordinates on Google Earth get pretty good reconstruction of key shots in the video. Of course, it's unsurprising that a government committee for investigating UFOs didn't bother to do any due diligence like actually checking publicly documented flight paths. You don't get continued funding if you undermine the purpose of the position. (The article reports their claim that there were no planes in the area to be seen, but there were in fact three.)
lobster_johnson 10y ago
All this discussion about it being another aircraft ignores the fact that this was by all reports an experienced crew who must have seen plenty of airplanes at a distance before and know whether they would be looking at one. Conversely, if this were a green crew with little experience with the FLIR infrared equipment who wouldn't necessarily recognize another plane, why would the Chilean military consider this to be a mystery at all?
- drawnwren 10y ago
  I happen to be a very experienced FLIR analyst, and I've looked at this video: all you can tell at this range and resolution is that there is a hot thing there moving at a constant speed. There really isn't much magic to analyzing these videos, they're either black or white hot and usually don't provide as much information as we would like to think they do.
icanhackit 10y ago
> another analysis that suggests this might be airplanes Then they'd have to be stealth airplanes and unwilling to communicate with the patrol. From the source [1] article: Shortly thereafter, the pilot contacted two radar stations - one close by on the coast, and the other the main DGAC Control system (Ground Primary Radar) in Santiago - to report the unknown traffic. Neither station could detect it on radar, although both easily picked up the helicopter. (The object was well within the range of radar detection.) Air traffic controllers confirmed that no traffic, either civilian or military, had been reported in the area, and that no aircraft had been authorized to fly in the controlled air space where the object was located. The on-board radar was also unable to detect the object and the camera’s radar could not lock onto it. The pilot tried several times to communicate with the UAP, using the multi-national, civilian bandwidth designed for this purpose. He received no reply. [1] http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/groundbreaking-ufo-video-just-released-from-chilean_us_586d37bce4b014e7c72ee56b http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/groundbreaking-ufo-video...
- bastawhiz 10y ago
  I would argue that just because nobody answered doesn't mean it wasn't an airplane. Maybe the guy was just eating a sandwich and didn't feel like picking up his radio. I'd also have a hard time believing Chile keeps perfect flight records. Occam's razor and all that.
  - icanhackit 10y ago
    Fine, what about the lack of radar signature - unable to be detected either from nearby ground-based installations, the helicopter's dedicated radar or the additional radar on the IR sensor cluster? I think that was the more interesting point. Also remember the helicopter was travelling at reasonably low speeds of 132 knots, or 152 mph yet if we're looking at the turbofan exhausts/afterburner we should expect object to reduce in size accordingly.
- Waterluvian 10y ago
  When you fly a plane, are you tuned into a whole bunch of different radio channels at all times?
tylersmith 10y ago
A dirigible is more likely and would explain the contrail.

Cyph0n 10y ago

The discussion is ongoing though. There are two possible candidate aircraft, but the distances and altitudes seem to be off.

Semiapies 10y ago
Three, now, and people putting in coordinates on Google Earth get pretty good reconstruction of key shots in the video. Of course, it's unsurprising that a government committee for investigating UFOs didn't bother to do any due diligence like actually checking publicly documented flight paths. You don't get continued funding if you undermine the purpose of the position. (The article reports their claim that there were no planes in the area to be seen, but there were in fact three.)

lobster_johnson 10y ago

All this discussion about it being another aircraft ignores the fact that this was by all reports an experienced crew who must have seen plenty of airplanes at a distance before and know whether they would be looking at one. Conversely, if this were a green crew with little experience with the FLIR infrared equipment who wouldn't necessarily recognize another plane, why would the Chilean military consider this to be a mystery at all?

drawnwren 10y ago
I happen to be a very experienced FLIR analyst, and I've looked at this video: all you can tell at this range and resolution is that there is a hot thing there moving at a constant speed. There really isn't much magic to analyzing these videos, they're either black or white hot and usually don't provide as much information as we would like to think they do.

icanhackit 10y ago

> another analysis that suggests this might be airplanes Then they'd have to be stealth airplanes and unwilling to communicate with the patrol. From the source [1] article: Shortly thereafter, the pilot contacted two radar stations - one close by on the coast, and the other the main DGAC Control system (Ground Primary Radar) in Santiago - to report the unknown traffic. Neither station could detect it on radar, although both easily picked up the helicopter. (The object was well within the range of radar detection.) Air traffic controllers confirmed that no traffic, either civilian or military, had been reported in the area, and that no aircraft had been authorized to fly in the controlled air space where the object was located. The on-board radar was also unable to detect the object and the camera’s radar could not lock onto it. The pilot tried several times to communicate with the UAP, using the multi-national, civilian bandwidth designed for this purpose. He received no reply. [1] http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/groundbreaking-ufo-video-just-released-from-chilean_us_586d37bce4b014e7c72ee56b http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/groundbreaking-ufo-video...

bastawhiz 10y ago
I would argue that just because nobody answered doesn't mean it wasn't an airplane. Maybe the guy was just eating a sandwich and didn't feel like picking up his radio. I'd also have a hard time believing Chile keeps perfect flight records. Occam's razor and all that.
- icanhackit 10y ago
  Fine, what about the lack of radar signature - unable to be detected either from nearby ground-based installations, the helicopter's dedicated radar or the additional radar on the IR sensor cluster? I think that was the more interesting point. Also remember the helicopter was travelling at reasonably low speeds of 132 knots, or 152 mph yet if we're looking at the turbofan exhausts/afterburner we should expect object to reduce in size accordingly.
Waterluvian 10y ago
When you fly a plane, are you tuned into a whole bunch of different radio channels at all times?

tylersmith 10y ago

A dirigible is more likely and would explain the contrail.