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Can someone provide some links to fake news articles? I feel like the term "fake news" became popular after the election yet I haven't actually seen any fake ne

Can someone provide some links to fake news articles? I feel like the term "fake news" became popular after the election yet I haven't actually seen any fake news. Maybe it's because I don't use Facebook?

vowelless 10y ago
> I feel like the term "fake news" became popular after the election You're not wrong. It seemed like suddenly this phrase was everywhere. https://www.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%203-m&q=fake%20news https://www.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%203-m&q=fak...
- pessimizer 10y ago
  As the Republican coalition is made up of finance people and arms dealers, the Democratic coalition is made up of PR companies and management consultants (a lot like UK Labour.) They overestimated their effectiveness over a general populace, but there's no questioning their expertise in thought-leading the cosmopolitan middle class.
- JacobJans 10y ago
  The only question is why wasn't it everywhere before the election?
  - michaelchisari 10y ago
    It most definitely was, but a heated, nearly year and a half long election provided a big economic opportunity for fake news.
  - tomp 10y ago
    Because the mainstream media thought that Trump won't win, and articles attacking him were thought to be "enough". After he won, they needed a new propaganda strategy.
    - nommm-nommm 10y ago
      "Fake news" was news before Trump won the election
    - DonaldFisk 10y ago
      It was a bit complacent of them, and complaining now isn't going to affect the result. The existence of Macedonian web sites with completely made-up news stories was known about well before the US presidential election, e.g. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/aug/24/facebook-clickbait-political-news-sites-us-election-trump https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/aug/24/facebook-... This should have been a big story before the election, but it seems to have been barely reported on.
michaelchisari 10y ago
Best place to check for the latest in fake news is, as always, snopes.com I can't imagine the kind of pressure they've been under the past year to debunk all these absurd viral stories.
- protomyth 10y ago
  Why do you trust snopes for political fact checking?
  - DonaldFisk 10y ago
    The point is, you shouldn't. He's generally pretty accurate though, because he actually investigates stories instead of just accepting them. And that's what you should do if you don't want to be caught out. Some stories are just urban myths (David Mikkelson's/Snopes's original focus), many are just press releases, some are planted by various PR outfits, others are planted by people with a particular agenda. Be skeptical, and investigate whenever you can.
    - protomyth 10y ago
      He? Kim LaCapria was doing a lot of the fact checking on political articles during the campaign.
      - DonaldFisk 10y ago
        I'm not familiar with the other contributors. I know of David Mikkelson and Barbara Hamel from alt.folklore.urban, and snopes.com was founded by them, and was originally exclusively about urban myths (the "Archive" part).
        protomyth 10y ago
        I think one of the problems is that people who are familiar with the original contributors are transferring that trust to new staff doing the political side.
pokemon-trainer 10y ago
Fake news, like this? http://www.infowars.com http://www.infowars.com http://www.breitbart.com http://www.breitbart.com http://www.zerohedge.com http://www.zerohedge.com http://www.rt.com http://www.rt.com
- cloakandswagger 10y ago
  >When I say fake news, I'm not talking about stuff you disagree with, or poorly reported news or even sensationalist headlines.
  - mtbcoder 10y ago
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fake_news_websites https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fake_news_websites
    - specialist 10y ago
      Is there a list of left wing fake news sites? Just asking...
      - pokemon-trainer 10y ago
        the last left wing fake news was JFK and the missile gap, good luck.
  - deleted 10y ago
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  - michaelchisari 10y ago
    Please don't quote me while defending infowars. #pizzagate and gay frogs and fema camps are the epitome of fake news.
- alva 10y ago
  If you believe that these sources (ok, I maybe concede on infowars...) are fake news, then the machine behind this campaign has at least worked on you.
mtbcoder 10y ago
Just recently: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jan/07/german-police-quash-breitbart-story-of-mob-setting-fire-to-dortmund-church https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jan/07/german-police-...
psyc 10y ago
Same here. I see hysteria about it everywhere, and have yet to see a single instance of it.
- JacobJans 10y ago
  http://www.theverge.com/2016/12/30/14128508/facebook-fake-news-2016-top-50-articles http://www.theverge.com/2016/12/30/14128508/facebook-fake-ne...
- michaelchisari 10y ago
  This thread is full of examples.
JacobJans 10y ago
http://www.theverge.com/2016/12/30/14128508/facebook-fake-news-2016-top-50-articles http://www.theverge.com/2016/12/30/14128508/facebook-fake-ne...
DonaldFisk 10y ago
Here are some from the mainstream media. They're not the sort of articles that are being complained about, though. Fake news: http://web.archive.org/web/20070220194853/http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/thunderer/article1120757.ece http://web.archive.org/web/20070220194853/http://www.timeson... Debunked: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saddam_Hussein%27s_alleged_shredder https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saddam_Hussein%27s_alleged_shr... Fake news: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3664181/JK-Rowling-joins-Labour-MPs-slam-Jeremy-Corbyn-backing-rally-attended-hard-left-activists-wearing-eradicate-right-wing-Blairite-vermin-T-shirts-days-Jo-Cox-killing.html http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3664181/JK-Rowling-j... Debunked: https://skwawkbox.org/2016/07/27/exclusive-interview-with-the-vermin-shirt-wearer/ https://skwawkbox.org/2016/07/27/exclusive-interview-with-th... Fake news: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3686082/Hours-challenging-Jeremy-Corbyn-Labour-leadership-Angela-Eagle-s-office-BRICKED-Labour-civil-war-turns-nasty.html?ITO=1490 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3686082/Hours-challe... Debunked: http://www.rationalskepticism.org/news-politics/uk-labour-party-watch-t32323-8100.html http://www.rationalskepticism.org/news-politics/uk-labour-pa... Fake news: http://news.sky.com/story/corbyn-heckled-over-eu-vote-its-your-fault-10324567 http://news.sky.com/story/corbyn-heckled-over-eu-vote-its-yo... Debunked: https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2016/06/news-agenda-set/ https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2016/06/news-agenda-...
nommm-nommm 10y ago
Leading up to the election Macedonian teenagers pumped out a bunch of pro Trump made up "news" for profit. They didn't care about Trump per se, they went where the money was. Pro Trump got the page views like nothing else. The stories were mainly spread through Facebook shares. https://www.buzzfeed.com/craigsilverman/how-macedonia-became-a-global-hub-for-pro-trump-misinfo https://www.buzzfeed.com/craigsilverman/how-macedonia-became... >"Yes, the info in the blogs is bad, false, and misleading but the rationale is that 'if it gets the people to click on it and engage, then use it,'" said a university student in Veles[a Macedonian town] who started a US politics site

vowelless 10y ago

> I feel like the term "fake news" became popular after the election You're not wrong. It seemed like suddenly this phrase was everywhere. https://www.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%203-m&q=fake%20news https://www.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%203-m&q=fak...

pessimizer 10y ago
As the Republican coalition is made up of finance people and arms dealers, the Democratic coalition is made up of PR companies and management consultants (a lot like UK Labour.) They overestimated their effectiveness over a general populace, but there's no questioning their expertise in thought-leading the cosmopolitan middle class.
JacobJans 10y ago
The only question is why wasn't it everywhere before the election?
- michaelchisari 10y ago
  It most definitely was, but a heated, nearly year and a half long election provided a big economic opportunity for fake news.
- tomp 10y ago
  Because the mainstream media thought that Trump won't win, and articles attacking him were thought to be "enough". After he won, they needed a new propaganda strategy.
  - nommm-nommm 10y ago
    "Fake news" was news before Trump won the election
  - DonaldFisk 10y ago
    It was a bit complacent of them, and complaining now isn't going to affect the result. The existence of Macedonian web sites with completely made-up news stories was known about well before the US presidential election, e.g. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/aug/24/facebook-clickbait-political-news-sites-us-election-trump https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/aug/24/facebook-... This should have been a big story before the election, but it seems to have been barely reported on.

michaelchisari 10y ago

Best place to check for the latest in fake news is, as always, snopes.com I can't imagine the kind of pressure they've been under the past year to debunk all these absurd viral stories.

protomyth 10y ago
Why do you trust snopes for political fact checking?
- DonaldFisk 10y ago
  The point is, you shouldn't. He's generally pretty accurate though, because he actually investigates stories instead of just accepting them. And that's what you should do if you don't want to be caught out. Some stories are just urban myths (David Mikkelson's/Snopes's original focus), many are just press releases, some are planted by various PR outfits, others are planted by people with a particular agenda. Be skeptical, and investigate whenever you can.
  - protomyth 10y ago
    He? Kim LaCapria was doing a lot of the fact checking on political articles during the campaign.
    - DonaldFisk 10y ago
      I'm not familiar with the other contributors. I know of David Mikkelson and Barbara Hamel from alt.folklore.urban, and snopes.com was founded by them, and was originally exclusively about urban myths (the "Archive" part).
      - protomyth 10y ago
        I think one of the problems is that people who are familiar with the original contributors are transferring that trust to new staff doing the political side.

pokemon-trainer 10y ago

Fake news, like this? http://www.infowars.com http://www.infowars.com http://www.breitbart.com http://www.breitbart.com http://www.zerohedge.com http://www.zerohedge.com http://www.rt.com http://www.rt.com

cloakandswagger 10y ago
>When I say fake news, I'm not talking about stuff you disagree with, or poorly reported news or even sensationalist headlines.
- mtbcoder 10y ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fake_news_websites https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fake_news_websites
  - specialist 10y ago
    Is there a list of left wing fake news sites? Just asking...
    - pokemon-trainer 10y ago
      the last left wing fake news was JFK and the missile gap, good luck.
- deleted 10y ago
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- michaelchisari 10y ago
  Please don't quote me while defending infowars. #pizzagate and gay frogs and fema camps are the epitome of fake news.
alva 10y ago
If you believe that these sources (ok, I maybe concede on infowars...) are fake news, then the machine behind this campaign has at least worked on you.

mtbcoder 10y ago

Just recently: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jan/07/german-police-quash-breitbart-story-of-mob-setting-fire-to-dortmund-church https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jan/07/german-police-...

psyc 10y ago

Same here. I see hysteria about it everywhere, and have yet to see a single instance of it.

JacobJans 10y ago
http://www.theverge.com/2016/12/30/14128508/facebook-fake-news-2016-top-50-articles http://www.theverge.com/2016/12/30/14128508/facebook-fake-ne...
michaelchisari 10y ago
This thread is full of examples.

JacobJans 10y ago

http://www.theverge.com/2016/12/30/14128508/facebook-fake-news-2016-top-50-articles http://www.theverge.com/2016/12/30/14128508/facebook-fake-ne...

DonaldFisk 10y ago

Here are some from the mainstream media. They're not the sort of articles that are being complained about, though. Fake news: http://web.archive.org/web/20070220194853/http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/thunderer/article1120757.ece http://web.archive.org/web/20070220194853/http://www.timeson... Debunked: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saddam_Hussein%27s_alleged_shredder https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saddam_Hussein%27s_alleged_shr... Fake news: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3664181/JK-Rowling-joins-Labour-MPs-slam-Jeremy-Corbyn-backing-rally-attended-hard-left-activists-wearing-eradicate-right-wing-Blairite-vermin-T-shirts-days-Jo-Cox-killing.html http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3664181/JK-Rowling-j... Debunked: https://skwawkbox.org/2016/07/27/exclusive-interview-with-the-vermin-shirt-wearer/ https://skwawkbox.org/2016/07/27/exclusive-interview-with-th... Fake news: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3686082/Hours-challenging-Jeremy-Corbyn-Labour-leadership-Angela-Eagle-s-office-BRICKED-Labour-civil-war-turns-nasty.html?ITO=1490 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3686082/Hours-challe... Debunked: http://www.rationalskepticism.org/news-politics/uk-labour-party-watch-t32323-8100.html http://www.rationalskepticism.org/news-politics/uk-labour-pa... Fake news: http://news.sky.com/story/corbyn-heckled-over-eu-vote-its-your-fault-10324567 http://news.sky.com/story/corbyn-heckled-over-eu-vote-its-yo... Debunked: https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2016/06/news-agenda-set/ https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2016/06/news-agenda-...

nommm-nommm 10y ago

Leading up to the election Macedonian teenagers pumped out a bunch of pro Trump made up "news" for profit. They didn't care about Trump per se, they went where the money was. Pro Trump got the page views like nothing else. The stories were mainly spread through Facebook shares. https://www.buzzfeed.com/craigsilverman/how-macedonia-became-a-global-hub-for-pro-trump-misinfo https://www.buzzfeed.com/craigsilverman/how-macedonia-became... >"Yes, the info in the blogs is bad, false, and misleading but the rationale is that 'if it gets the people to click on it and engage, then use it,'" said a university student in Veles[a Macedonian town] who started a US politics site