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Can you honestly say you remember the exact pacman syntax of how to perform a system upgrade or how to install a package? :-) For me the UX was a problem, even

by kennu 10y ago

Can you honestly say you remember the exact pacman syntax of how to perform a system upgrade or how to install a package? :-) For me the UX was a problem, even if technically the package management is good.

btschaegg 10y ago
I just remember the commands I use most, namely: ´sudo pacman -Syy´ to update the package db ´sudo pacman -Suy´ to update all packages ´sudo pacman -S package´ to install/update a specific pakage ´sudo pacman -U package.pkg.tar.xz´ to install a package from a local file (useful if you're using makepkg) Those are usually enough to maintain my system. I'll have to hit the wiki for the various query options though. But if the CLI side of pacman bothers you, I'd suggest defining aliases in your shell's RC. I track my dotfiles using git and share them on all my machines, and this method works quite well for me...
- joatmon-snoo 10y ago
  And -Ss to search, -Rns for purge/uninstall.
- ake1 10y ago
  i too would recommend defining aliases. if not for UX reasons, for brevity and consistency. i use the same (short) commands for pacman as for apt or yaourt.
m45t3r 10y ago
Pacman UX may be difficult to getting started, however once learn a bit it is really easy. For example, you know the "-S something" install a package named "something" and "-Ss" search a package in repositories. So, how to search an installed package? Well, there is "-Q' parameter that installs a local package, so maybe: $ pacman -Qs package And yeah, this is exactly how it works. Once you learn a bit about how pacman works, it all connects, same thing as vim.
amcrouch 10y ago
You do not have standard package manager aliases in your dot files? Why would I want to remember sudo pacman -Syu when I can just enter pkg-update? Useful if you have to jump distro's when you surely have your commands aliased.

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Can you honestly say you remember the exact pacman syntax of how to perform a system upgrade or how to install a package? :-) For me the UX was a problem, even

by kennu 10y ago

btschaegg 10y ago
I just remember the commands I use most, namely: ´sudo pacman -Syy´ to update the package db ´sudo pacman -Suy´ to update all packages ´sudo pacman -S package´ to install/update a specific pakage ´sudo pacman -U package.pkg.tar.xz´ to install a package from a local file (useful if you're using makepkg) Those are usually enough to maintain my system. I'll have to hit the wiki for the various query options though. But if the CLI side of pacman bothers you, I'd suggest defining aliases in your shell's RC. I track my dotfiles using git and share them on all my machines, and this method works quite well for me...
- joatmon-snoo 10y ago
  And -Ss to search, -Rns for purge/uninstall.
- ake1 10y ago
  i too would recommend defining aliases. if not for UX reasons, for brevity and consistency. i use the same (short) commands for pacman as for apt or yaourt.
m45t3r 10y ago
Pacman UX may be difficult to getting started, however once learn a bit it is really easy. For example, you know the "-S something" install a package named "something" and "-Ss" search a package in repositories. So, how to search an installed package? Well, there is "-Q' parameter that installs a local package, so maybe: $ pacman -Qs package And yeah, this is exactly how it works. Once you learn a bit about how pacman works, it all connects, same thing as vim.
amcrouch 10y ago
You do not have standard package manager aliases in your dot files? Why would I want to remember sudo pacman -Syu when I can just enter pkg-update? Useful if you have to jump distro's when you surely have your commands aliased.