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> Linux Bash shell in windows 10 Despite their "this is all about the developer" statements, making Windows Subsystem for Linux unable to co-exist with VMware

> Linux Bash shell in windows 10 Despite their "this is all about the developer" statements, making Windows Subsystem for Linux unable to co-exist with VMware and other virtualization tools was a deal-breaker for me.

mcpherrinm 10y ago
Can you expand on this? Are you saying I can't run VMware while Windows Subsystem for Linux is running? I wasn't aware of such a limitation (because I don't use vmware etc.), but would like to know more.
- blitzd 10y ago
  I believe it's based upon hyper-v, which typically precludes using other VM software on the same machine. Docker toolbox for Windows 10 has the same issues.
  - pirocks 10y ago
    I don't know much but the bash on windows thing was a completely separate thing from vm's.
  - hirsin 10y ago
    No, WSL does not require hyper-v. It is a totally separate system from hyper-v and does not rely on virtualization of any kind. You can use WSL alongside any other VM software.
- heroprotagonist 10y ago
  Actually, I might be wrong. I thought it required Hyper-V, since it ran an Ubuntu under the covers, and that assumption might incorrect. Specifically, it's enabling Hyper-V which makes Windows incompatible with VMware. The incompatibility results in more issues than just those with the bash shell. The big one for me is Docker for Windows: https://forums.docker.com/t/docker-for-windows-w-vmware-installed/19011 https://forums.docker.com/t/docker-for-windows-w-vmware-inst... I think I will just try it out and revert back if there's an issue, since I can't find clear documentation about it being incompatible. So I assume I'm wrong. I can let you know if you like.
  - sitharus 10y ago
    It does run an ubuntu/GNU userspace, but not ubuntu Linux. WSL is a Linux ABI layer for Windows so no virtualisation is needed. It's more like WINE.
- jackhammons 10y ago
  Heyo, PM for WSL here. Neither VMware, HyperV or any other VM software is required to use Bash on Windows. https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/wsl/2016/04/22/windows-subsystem-for-linux-overview/ https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/wsl/2016/04/22/windows-subs...
jackhammons 10y ago
WSL PM here. No virtualization software is required to use Bash on Windows. https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/wsl/2016/04/22/windows-subsystem-for-linux-overview/ https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/wsl/2016/04/22/windows-subs...

mcpherrinm 10y ago

Can you expand on this? Are you saying I can't run VMware while Windows Subsystem for Linux is running? I wasn't aware of such a limitation (because I don't use vmware etc.), but would like to know more.

blitzd 10y ago
I believe it's based upon hyper-v, which typically precludes using other VM software on the same machine. Docker toolbox for Windows 10 has the same issues.
- pirocks 10y ago
  I don't know much but the bash on windows thing was a completely separate thing from vm's.
- hirsin 10y ago
  No, WSL does not require hyper-v. It is a totally separate system from hyper-v and does not rely on virtualization of any kind. You can use WSL alongside any other VM software.
heroprotagonist 10y ago
Actually, I might be wrong. I thought it required Hyper-V, since it ran an Ubuntu under the covers, and that assumption might incorrect. Specifically, it's enabling Hyper-V which makes Windows incompatible with VMware. The incompatibility results in more issues than just those with the bash shell. The big one for me is Docker for Windows: https://forums.docker.com/t/docker-for-windows-w-vmware-installed/19011 https://forums.docker.com/t/docker-for-windows-w-vmware-inst... I think I will just try it out and revert back if there's an issue, since I can't find clear documentation about it being incompatible. So I assume I'm wrong. I can let you know if you like.
- sitharus 10y ago
  It does run an ubuntu/GNU userspace, but not ubuntu Linux. WSL is a Linux ABI layer for Windows so no virtualisation is needed. It's more like WINE.
jackhammons 10y ago
Heyo, PM for WSL here. Neither VMware, HyperV or any other VM software is required to use Bash on Windows. https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/wsl/2016/04/22/windows-subsystem-for-linux-overview/ https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/wsl/2016/04/22/windows-subs...

jackhammons 10y ago

WSL PM here. No virtualization software is required to use Bash on Windows. https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/wsl/2016/04/22/windows-subsystem-for-linux-overview/ https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/wsl/2016/04/22/windows-subs...