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Gleen Greenwald from the Intercept has published some decent pieces on the lofty "evidence" for Russian hacking, his latest being: https://theintercept.com/201
by SirensOfTitan 10y ago
Gleen Greenwald from the Intercept has published some decent pieces on the lofty "evidence" for Russian hacking, his latest being:
https://theintercept.com/2017/01/04/washpost-is-richly-rewarded-for-false-news-about-russia-threat-while-public-is-deceived/ https://theintercept.com/2017/01/04/washpost-is-richly-rewar...
- philangist 10y agoGlenn Greenwald has already stated his opinion on this report: https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/817479125707399168 https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/817479125707399168
- threeseed 10y agoYou can always tell those who have little to contribute when they fall back on the "there is no evidence" line. It's a declassified report. The sources and methods that the US intelligence community uses is never going to be made public nor does anyone reasonably expect it to be. So instead of complaining about evidence. Assume that the Obama administration is not trying to make their last big story before leaving a lie and refute the motives etc.
- colordrops 10y agoThe problem is that we have no reason to trust politicians and the intelligence community, which have proven to be some of the most dishonest and mischievous people on the planet. This is especially true with the NSA and CIA, which have both had representatives lie under oath, commit illegal activities, and be directly involved in the overthrow of dozens of democratically elected governments. Why should we trust their report if they aren't going to show us the evidence? Why should we trust them at all for that matter?
- SirensOfTitan 10y agoShow me evidence of your claims suddenly isn't a reasonable ask in the face of an accusation? Don't complain about lack-of-evidence, just put your trust blindly in someone. This argument feels quite weak.
- raverbashing 10y agoAnd GG's position in this seems to be "It's against the current administration so I'm in favour of it" Remains to be seen if he'll be so critical of the future POTUS
- ahoy 10y agoI can't imagine how any informed person would assume that GG is a fan of Trump. (which is what you're implying, of course)
- raverbashing 10y agoI don't think he is, but "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" happens
- eli_gottlieb 10y agoLeftists especially have an old, bad habit of pretending the Russian government are somehow nicer people than the American Right.
- colordrops 10y agoIt does happen but I don't see this with Greenwald, or even Assange for that matter.
- threeseed 10y agoNot sure why people keep listening to this guy. He spouts hyperbolic nonsense. To equate organisations like the New York Times and the Washington Post with the Fake News scandals like Pizza Gate is beyond the pale. And sure they make mistakes as all people do but they aren't intentionally doing so which is why Greenwald constantly assumes. And not sure why you posted this now because nothing in that article refutes the claims that Russia was involved in the US election.
- jwtadvice2 10y agoBecause he's a Pulizer Prize winning journalist with an unimpeachable record and the primary body responsible for getting us the mass global and domestic surveillance disclosures. And because his reporting has a tendency to be prescient.
- neaden 10y agoI have a lot of respect for GG and have been reading him for years. But he's by no means an expert on these sorts of issues at all and I don't see why his opinion on who hacked the DNC is especially relevant.