So true, it made me smile because just recently I had a great discussion with a very smart .NET programmer who truly believed that Microsoft's LINQ is a revolut

So true, it made me smile because just recently I had a great discussion with a very smart .NET programmer who truly believed that Microsoft's LINQ is a revolution in programming languages. When I explained to him that a similarly weak DSL serves as an example in the introductory chapter to Lisp macros (Practical Common Lisp), he looked at me like I was an idiot, and when I showed him traditional Rubbyish 2.times { puts "Hello" } he said "yes, but where is the IDE? where is an integrated debugger and MSDN-like 2GB of documentation?" Funny thing is that he DID find a Lisp book (which one he did not explain) and proclaimed that there is nothing in Lisp that beats C# 3.0, and "3.0" part was dropped with an authoritarian tone. He hasn't programmed in anything but "Visual Blah" since college graduation in 98.