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I would really like to support Mozilla again, but they have had an unreasonable amount of exploits recently, add to this the fact that support for my most belov

by EJTH 10y ago

I would really like to support Mozilla again, but they have had an unreasonable amount of exploits recently, add to this the fact that support for my most beloved tools are gone (Firebug & TamperData) I really see no other point in sticking with FF than a political or ideological agenda.

nachtigall 10y ago
In my experience the firefox devtools are much better (more features, better UX) than Firebug nowadays. I've been using them for one and a half years now (Firebug before). Give it a try: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Tools/Migrating_from_Firebug https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Tools/Migrating_fro... and https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Tools https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Tools
- bigbugbag 10y ago
  In my experience from yesterday in the latest firefox: firebug still works and firefox devtools are lacking from the start and I go back to firebug after 2 minutes trying to edit live code. I still miss the old opera dev features that offered way better and advanced features years ago.
  - nachtigall 10y ago
    > trying to edit live code You mean JS code in the debugger? You may want to raise an issue for this in the new debugger which seems much faster developement progress: https://github.com/devtools-html/debugger.html https://github.com/devtools-html/debugger.html Or html in Inspector or CSS in the rule view?
bigbugbag 10y ago
What? firebug is gone ? I used it earlier today. Just checked and firebug is still here and works and will be supported until firefox 52 when firefox moves to become a multiprocess program. The firebug team is working to integrate firebug into firefox.next because it would be too complex to port firebug to a multi process architecture. I didn't know about this and am not happy about it, I guess this means I switch to firefox esr and pale moon to continue using firebug if the dev tools are not to my taste (as they are now and have been since their introduction)

by EJTH 10y ago

nachtigall 10y ago

In my experience the firefox devtools are much better (more features, better UX) than Firebug nowadays. I've been using them for one and a half years now (Firebug before). Give it a try: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Tools/Migrating_from_Firebug https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Tools/Migrating_fro... and https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Tools https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Tools

bigbugbag 10y ago
In my experience from yesterday in the latest firefox: firebug still works and firefox devtools are lacking from the start and I go back to firebug after 2 minutes trying to edit live code. I still miss the old opera dev features that offered way better and advanced features years ago.
- nachtigall 10y ago
  > trying to edit live code You mean JS code in the debugger? You may want to raise an issue for this in the new debugger which seems much faster developement progress: https://github.com/devtools-html/debugger.html https://github.com/devtools-html/debugger.html Or html in Inspector or CSS in the rule view?

bigbugbag 10y ago

What? firebug is gone ? I used it earlier today. Just checked and firebug is still here and works and will be supported until firefox 52 when firefox moves to become a multiprocess program. The firebug team is working to integrate firebug into firefox.next because it would be too complex to port firebug to a multi process architecture. I didn't know about this and am not happy about it, I guess this means I switch to firefox esr and pale moon to continue using firebug if the dev tools are not to my taste (as they are now and have been since their introduction)