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So what's the business model here? This is a "free" product, so how does Vivaldi intend to ensure its continued existence?

vortico 10y ago
I'm wondering this too. Mozilla has tons of sponsorship from Yahoo and others. Google invests in Chrome to give them leverage for their own products. Since Vivaldi is closed source, how do I know they aren't selling my data?
- ymse 10y ago
  Vivaldi is allegedly free software: https://vivaldi.com/source/ https://vivaldi.com/source/
  - vortico 10y ago
    Looks like you're right. The original Vivaldi code is a BSD-style license, and although I didn't check all the dependencies, it seems to be mostly Chromium + lots of original code.
  - Aoyagi 10y ago
    AFAIK that's only a part of it, specifically the layout engine-related one.
  - bigbugbag 10y ago
    No. no it's not. see vivaldi://about/ Vivaldi Technologies AS. A Browser For Our Friends Copyright 2017 Vivaldi Technologies AS. All rights reserved. Vivaldi is made possible by the Chromium open source project and other open source software. Vivaldi Terms of Service and vivaldi://terms Vivaldi End User License Agreement Last updated: November 18, 2016 1. This End User License Agreement ("EULA") governs your use ("You") of the browser software in executable form ("Software") and any ancillary services ("Services") provided to You by Vivaldi Technology AS ("Vivaldi") to the exclusion of all other terms and conditions. Source code used in the Software, under open source license agreements, can be obtained at https://vivaldi.com/source https://vivaldi.com/source. (...)
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bigbugbag 10y ago
Right now, it's the same as ubuntu: personal funds of the founder. Afaik as I know plan is to use an affiliate-deal but Jon Von Tetzchner said the business model is not based on understanding a user’s online behavior and profiling users to monetize. The focus is on providing superior experience and not maximizing profit per user. For example vivaldi has partnership with phillips to work with their phillips Hue wireless lighting, and deals with ebay and booking.com on click on link basis.

vortico 10y ago

I'm wondering this too. Mozilla has tons of sponsorship from Yahoo and others. Google invests in Chrome to give them leverage for their own products. Since Vivaldi is closed source, how do I know they aren't selling my data?

ymse 10y ago
Vivaldi is allegedly free software: https://vivaldi.com/source/ https://vivaldi.com/source/
- vortico 10y ago
  Looks like you're right. The original Vivaldi code is a BSD-style license, and although I didn't check all the dependencies, it seems to be mostly Chromium + lots of original code.
- Aoyagi 10y ago
  AFAIK that's only a part of it, specifically the layout engine-related one.
- bigbugbag 10y ago
  No. no it's not. see vivaldi://about/ Vivaldi Technologies AS. A Browser For Our Friends Copyright 2017 Vivaldi Technologies AS. All rights reserved. Vivaldi is made possible by the Chromium open source project and other open source software. Vivaldi Terms of Service and vivaldi://terms Vivaldi End User License Agreement Last updated: November 18, 2016 1. This End User License Agreement ("EULA") governs your use ("You") of the browser software in executable form ("Software") and any ancillary services ("Services") provided to You by Vivaldi Technology AS ("Vivaldi") to the exclusion of all other terms and conditions. Source code used in the Software, under open source license agreements, can be obtained at https://vivaldi.com/source https://vivaldi.com/source. (...)

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bigbugbag 10y ago

Right now, it's the same as ubuntu: personal funds of the founder. Afaik as I know plan is to use an affiliate-deal but Jon Von Tetzchner said the business model is not based on understanding a user’s online behavior and profiling users to monetize. The focus is on providing superior experience and not maximizing profit per user. For example vivaldi has partnership with phillips to work with their phillips Hue wireless lighting, and deals with ebay and booking.com on click on link basis.