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Sonos doesn't have the ability to sync audio with video, only audio with audio, correct? We recently acquired a Sonos Playbar and the interplay between HDMI/Opt

Sonos doesn't have the ability to sync audio with video, only audio with audio, correct? We recently acquired a Sonos Playbar and the interplay between HDMI/Optical Out/TV processing made the lip syncing a nightmare. Still not sure it's entirely solved.

tjohns 10y ago
Typically, you need to plug in any external speakers (including the Sonos Playbar) to the optical out on your TV itself. This port is intentionally placed at the end of the TV's (latency-inducing) processing chain, and will get you properly synced audio. If you connect to the optical out on any other devices, you're pretty much guaranteed to have sync problems.
themihai 10y ago
I thought sonos can't even do multi channel audio. It's just a kind of mesh network. Wisa was supposed to fix that but for some reasons it seems it failed to get mainstreem
- wyager 10y ago
  No, you can have multiple speakers synced together with Sonos. It works very well; I've never noticed any drift. As I recall, this is why Sonos devices can't just run off a home wifi network and require a bridge.
  - themihai 10y ago
    Ok, but can you play multi-channel? Like a 5.1 system in a home theater ? As far as I know it's not possible. Multiple speakers playing the same content is not really multi channel.
    - jonknee 10y ago
      They sell 5.1 systems: http://www.sonos.com/en-us/shop/wireless-5-1-surround-sound-package.html http://www.sonos.com/en-us/shop/wireless-5-1-surround-sound-...
      - themihai 10y ago
        That's right but in my defence that's really a 3.1 system as you have lf, rf and center in a single speaker. It's also worth to note that lf, rf and center speakers are the most demanding/used channels so IMHO the problems were avoided not fixed. Putting all your channels into a single speaker is not really what I thought when I heard of wireless multi-channel audio. I also don't know what resolution they use because it's not mentioned in their specs but something tells me it's not 24 bit at least not for the separate speakers. I've tried multichannel wifi audio but it just doesn't work either due the buffering or the sync issues. I ended up with some proprietary technology with multiple antennas based on the 5GHz band but you need clear line of sight and that's not always convenient. Anything obstructing the line of sight may make your speaker fail to play. To sum it up: it's true that sonos has a 5.1 system but that's really a half backed solution. It's actually a 3.1 configuration. This may work for some people just like bluetooth speakers work for so many. Can they play in a real/native 5.1 configuration(6 separate speakers)? that's hard to say. What about real 7.1 or the latest configurations such Atmos/DTS:X ( 5.1.4 or 7.1.4)? That's impossible without hardware changes. Some would say that even standard ethernet is not good enough for multi channel audio(thus avb[0] or [1]powerlink) so I can't really see how standard wifi could work. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audio_Video_Bridging https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audio_Video_Bridging [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethernet_Powerlink https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethernet_Powerlink
    - rblatz 10y ago
      Play bar gives you the front 3, you can set up a pair of 1s as your rear left/right and then the sonos sub gives you the .1. So they do support 5.1 right now.
  - berberous 10y ago
    Sonos hasn't need a bridge for 2 years now. In my setup at least, it works just fine without it. See, e.g.: http://www.techhive.com/article/2601036/sonos-speakers-now-run-on-wi-fi-with-no-bridge-required.html http://www.techhive.com/article/2601036/sonos-speakers-now-r...
    - wyager 10y ago
      Ah, ours are at least two years old.
      - power78 10y ago
        It was a software, not a hardware, update that enabled this feature

tjohns 10y ago

Typically, you need to plug in any external speakers (including the Sonos Playbar) to the optical out on your TV itself. This port is intentionally placed at the end of the TV's (latency-inducing) processing chain, and will get you properly synced audio. If you connect to the optical out on any other devices, you're pretty much guaranteed to have sync problems.

themihai 10y ago

I thought sonos can't even do multi channel audio. It's just a kind of mesh network. Wisa was supposed to fix that but for some reasons it seems it failed to get mainstreem

wyager 10y ago
No, you can have multiple speakers synced together with Sonos. It works very well; I've never noticed any drift. As I recall, this is why Sonos devices can't just run off a home wifi network and require a bridge.
- themihai 10y ago
  Ok, but can you play multi-channel? Like a 5.1 system in a home theater ? As far as I know it's not possible. Multiple speakers playing the same content is not really multi channel.
  - jonknee 10y ago
    They sell 5.1 systems: http://www.sonos.com/en-us/shop/wireless-5-1-surround-sound-package.html http://www.sonos.com/en-us/shop/wireless-5-1-surround-sound-...
    - themihai 10y ago
      That's right but in my defence that's really a 3.1 system as you have lf, rf and center in a single speaker. It's also worth to note that lf, rf and center speakers are the most demanding/used channels so IMHO the problems were avoided not fixed. Putting all your channels into a single speaker is not really what I thought when I heard of wireless multi-channel audio. I also don't know what resolution they use because it's not mentioned in their specs but something tells me it's not 24 bit at least not for the separate speakers. I've tried multichannel wifi audio but it just doesn't work either due the buffering or the sync issues. I ended up with some proprietary technology with multiple antennas based on the 5GHz band but you need clear line of sight and that's not always convenient. Anything obstructing the line of sight may make your speaker fail to play. To sum it up: it's true that sonos has a 5.1 system but that's really a half backed solution. It's actually a 3.1 configuration. This may work for some people just like bluetooth speakers work for so many. Can they play in a real/native 5.1 configuration(6 separate speakers)? that's hard to say. What about real 7.1 or the latest configurations such Atmos/DTS:X ( 5.1.4 or 7.1.4)? That's impossible without hardware changes. Some would say that even standard ethernet is not good enough for multi channel audio(thus avb[0] or [1]powerlink) so I can't really see how standard wifi could work. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audio_Video_Bridging https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audio_Video_Bridging [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethernet_Powerlink https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethernet_Powerlink
  - rblatz 10y ago
    Play bar gives you the front 3, you can set up a pair of 1s as your rear left/right and then the sonos sub gives you the .1. So they do support 5.1 right now.
- berberous 10y ago
  Sonos hasn't need a bridge for 2 years now. In my setup at least, it works just fine without it. See, e.g.: http://www.techhive.com/article/2601036/sonos-speakers-now-run-on-wi-fi-with-no-bridge-required.html http://www.techhive.com/article/2601036/sonos-speakers-now-r...
  - wyager 10y ago
    Ah, ours are at least two years old.
    - power78 10y ago
      It was a software, not a hardware, update that enabled this feature