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"Remember, biometrics are meant as username replacement, not authentication (e.g. password-based)" Tell that to my fiance's iPhone, or my HP NX-series laptop w

"Remember, biometrics are meant as username replacement, not authentication (e.g. password-based)" Tell that to my fiance's iPhone, or my HP NX-series laptop which has Windows XP and a biometric user authentication login, I don't think they got the memo. "Scan multiple fingers" I guess you didn't read what I wrote. I'll just stop here until you do.

Fnoord 10y ago
> I don't think they got the memo. Sadly, they haven't. Did you get the memo where people from CCC got the fingerprint from a minister, just to prove a point? > I guess you didn't read what I wrote. I'll just stop here until you do. I did read what you wrote. That doesn't refute that in use cases, one finger(print) may stop working while another still works. It also doesn't refute that other biometric data stays intact. Although having to type 'lightedman' is a minor nuisance.
- kalleboo 10y ago
  > Did you get the memo where people from CCC got the fingerprint from a minister, just to prove a point? And they could have got his phone PIN just by standing in line behind him at Starbucks when he unlocks his phone
- lightedman 10y ago
  "That doesn't refute that in use cases, one finger(print) may stop working while another still works." Not in mine. Simply put there are too many cuts on every single finger on my hands to make biometric fingerprinting a reliable thing, and those cuts change pretty much daily. Do mining like I do, in hard rock, with hand tools and no gloves (because you need to feel for things lest you destroy a perfect specimen.) You're not escaping uncut, no matter what.
  - Fnoord 10y ago
    Cheers for explaining your use case. For people like you we either need alternative way of identification (such as face recognition), or we need you to type your username ('lightedman'). The latter is IMO (in 2017, without physical keyboards) rather annoying. Remember, I don't suggest we authenticate via fingerprints.

Fnoord 10y ago

> I don't think they got the memo. Sadly, they haven't. Did you get the memo where people from CCC got the fingerprint from a minister, just to prove a point? > I guess you didn't read what I wrote. I'll just stop here until you do. I did read what you wrote. That doesn't refute that in use cases, one finger(print) may stop working while another still works. It also doesn't refute that other biometric data stays intact. Although having to type 'lightedman' is a minor nuisance.

kalleboo 10y ago
> Did you get the memo where people from CCC got the fingerprint from a minister, just to prove a point? And they could have got his phone PIN just by standing in line behind him at Starbucks when he unlocks his phone
lightedman 10y ago
"That doesn't refute that in use cases, one finger(print) may stop working while another still works." Not in mine. Simply put there are too many cuts on every single finger on my hands to make biometric fingerprinting a reliable thing, and those cuts change pretty much daily. Do mining like I do, in hard rock, with hand tools and no gloves (because you need to feel for things lest you destroy a perfect specimen.) You're not escaping uncut, no matter what.
- Fnoord 10y ago
  Cheers for explaining your use case. For people like you we either need alternative way of identification (such as face recognition), or we need you to type your username ('lightedman'). The latter is IMO (in 2017, without physical keyboards) rather annoying. Remember, I don't suggest we authenticate via fingerprints.