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Happy to see IRC still going strong. While I switched to irccloud.com a couple years ago--persistent session is so nice, especially for mobile!--I used CLI clie
by jdcarter 10y ago
Happy to see IRC still going strong. While I switched to irccloud.com a couple years ago--persistent session is so nice, especially for mobile!--I used CLI clients for years before.
Amusing blast from the past: back in the 90's I worked at General Magic, and wrote my own IRC client [1] for our handheld devices. I attached a Metricom wireless modem to the bottom of mine and could be on IRC from anywhere; it was like living in the future! /s
[1]: http://joshcarter.com/magic_cap/cujochat http://joshcarter.com/magic_cap/cujochat
- LeoPanthera 10y agoDoes it not bother you that irccloud can see everything you type/read on IRC?
- vertex-four 10y agoWhy would that bother you any more than that the networks you're on can see everything you type/read on IRC? Generally people are on 2-3 networks at most, and you could get a very good idea of someone from intercepting messages on any one of them...
- stiva 10y agoNetworks, by and large, do not intercept messages like this. The only reason someone running an IRC network would see your messages is if they are in the same channel as you.
- vertex-four 10y agoNo, and nor does IRCCloud.
- pimeys 10y agoEvery client and every server can log everything in IRC. You don't do private chats in there.
- peteretep 10y agoNot in the least, should it?
- ticoombs 10y agoWhy but just run a bouncer like znc? I even have push notifications when I get tagged or a add a special keyword.
- throwaway112e8 10y agoI like ircloud https://www.irccloud.com/ https://www.irccloud.com/, it's not free but takes care of a lot of that and nice to access anywhere.
- fredsir 10y agoIs it push notifications as in notifications pushed to your android/ios device? If so, how did you set it up?
- BHSPitMonkey 10y agoI run a persistent irssi session accessible via SSH on a RPi at home, and I use this awesome irssi script + Android app to get push notifications for PMs/mentions: https://irssinotifier.appspot.com/ https://irssinotifier.appspot.com/
- atomi 10y agoI do the same with an rpi/docker container. There is a pushbullet script too if you're interested.
- benjiweber 10y agoYou can get push notifications with server side irssi in tmux/screen and IrssiNotifier on Android.
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- bzikarsky 10y agoI run znc + znc-push [1] + pushover [2] for push notifications on Android. Works like a charm. [1] http://wiki.znc.in/Push http://wiki.znc.in/Push [2] https://pushover.net/ https://pushover.net/
- kobeya 10y agoYou can run irrsi in tmux.
- btreecat 10y agoThat's how I have my weechat client setup on my VPS
- waterphone 10y agoOr screen.
- deleted 10y ago[deleted]
- marsrover 10y agoI'm also glad to see IRC still going strong. I much prefer IRC to StackExchange (not to diminish StackExchange, it's an amazing website) when looking for answers to questions. Not because I always get an answer, but when I do it's pretty quick and it's nice to have a direct conversation with the person who is helping. In addition, there are a lot of nice little channels out there that are just fun to hang out in.
- kovek 10y agoHow do you discover nice little channels that are fun to hang out in?
- marsrover 10y agoI've found that $"{someOpenSourceProject}-offtopic" sometimes works. Other than that, I just see people mention channels sometimes and I join them.
- pimeys 10y agoFor me, you join them 10 years ago and never leave. The same people are still there, maybe some new ones joining every now and then. People find them out by other people asking them to join. My favorite entertainment is definitely this one Finnish music channel, where the chat can be hilarious at any given time. In these channels there's people who've been there for almost 20 years. Sadly I parted ages ago from the channels I was chatting in the 90's. But I guess they're still there.
- Haydos585x2 10y agoJoin a ton of channels. Lurk for a bit, add things into the conversation. After a month or so everyone will be comfortable with you and you just keep going. More general topic channels like #startups on freenode are a bit easier to be social in. Learn the local rules and the local users. It's like any community really.
- deelowe 10y agohttp://irc.netsplit.de/ http://irc.netsplit.de/ is a good resource. Read up on the network before joining a channel. Each has their own culture, which is somewhat important to know before you lurk around.
- lacampbell 10y agoIRC is great. I think I learned more about computing while "wasting time" on IRC game dev channels while I was a student than I ever did at actual university courses.
- trentnelson 10y agoI remember when Alfred Perlstein (FreeBSD committer) invited me into #bsdcode on EFnet in the late 90s/early 00s after I kept pinging him with random kernel questions. Was fun idly chatting and learning from folk like John Lemon, John Baldwin, Jordan K. Hubbard (before Jobs snatched him up as Director of UNIX technology for Apple (pioneering the BSD element of today's OS X)).
- gonzo 10y agoJordan works for IXsystems (freenas, trueos) now.
- singingfish 10y agoMy entire career is based around wasting time on IRC. When I got laid off a year ago I had another offer within an hour thanks to IRC.
- tiglionabbit 10y agoI wanted to use irccloud, but many IRC networks ban it in a blanket policy against "browser-based clients" because they can't get an IP address to ban if you misbehave.
- bpye 10y agoIt's more work but I've found Quassel + quassel-webserver ( https://github.com/magne4000/quassel-webserver https://github.com/magne4000/quassel-webserver ) to be a good alternative.
- dijit 10y agoThat's not true, if the network is ipv6 aware, each user gets his own ipv6 with irccloud. Not to mention the hardcoded usernames. I'm against irccloud (you're paying to be man in the middled) but they definitely sorted the "can not ban" problem.
- tiglionabbit 10y agoWell it's been a while since I used it, but this was the state of it when I did.
- pricechild 10y ago"each user" - what defines a user? The problem with things like irccloud from a network operator perspective isn't that it's difficult to distinguish between users. It's that these systems often subvert protections the network has deemed necessary. Imagine example.net runs an open proxy scanner on anyone that connects. They find this reduces abuse considerably. If (e.g. irccloud) either 1) doesn't pass the originating user's ip 2) isn't trusted to pass the originating user's ip or 3) doesn't run a similar open proxy scanner, then example.net's open proxy scanner solves nothing. 1) isn't always technically trivial. 2) isn't for us to decide and 3) is probably never going to happen as the network will likely always be ahead. If you do manage to solve 1&2 between a mitm & a network then awesome. The problem is that this requires buy in from both sides. Just because irccloud.com support it doesn't mean it will automatically work on any irc network you try and connect to.
- kasbah 10y ago>While I switched to irccloud.com a couple years ago--persistent session is so nice, especially for mobile! https://riot.im https://riot.im with it's excellent IRC bridge is a solid alternative now (and fully open source).
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- malteof 10y agoHave you tried Matrix (e.g. riot.im [1])? It even has an IRC bridge, for free. [1] https://riot.im/ https://riot.im/
- unhammer 10y agoYou don't need irccloud to get persistence. There are many bouncers/proxies that let you connect from a device with flaky connections like a phone/laptop, as long as you have some always-connected machine where you can install things. Some popular ones are ZNC, Weechat, Quassel, Smuxi. Quassel and Smuxi.im are GUI-based ones, where you can start them one one computer and connect from another. (I've never tried them, so can't say how they fare.) I used ZNC for a while, that's a "pure bouncer" that just connects to your irc network and then you connect your client of choice to your ZNC. Simple and easy to set up, but not very featureful. I recently switched to Weechat, which comes with a nice CLI interface, as well as letting you connect from regular IRC clients, or from special Weechat-clients (their own protocol which gives some more control I suppose). There's an HTML5 client https://www.glowing-bear.org/ https://www.glowing-bear.org/ that a lot of people like. I use the Android client https://github.com/ubergeek42/weechat-android#weechat-android-relay-client https://github.com/ubergeek42/weechat-android#weechat-androi... a lot, it's very nice, though from my laptop I connect from Emacs's built in client (M-x erc). I run Weechat on a Raspberry Pi 1 that I had lying around, just connected it to my router, ran "apt install weechat weechat-plugins tmux" and set "tmux new-session -d weechat -s chat" to run on startup, and added a relay: http://www.weechat.org/files/doc/stable/weechat_user.en.html#relay_commands http://www.weechat.org/files/doc/stable/weechat_user.en.html...
- problems 10y agoYes, the weechat android client is the best. Before it I used irssi and tmux for years on end, even on my phone with Irssi ConnectBot. weechat's excellent android client changed that, I basically just had to tweak its CLI UI to behave more like irssi.
- aargh_aargh 10y agoNot just IRC, irssi also supports SILC (Secure Internet Live Conferencing). Here are the highlights: http://silcnet.org/info.html http://silcnet.org/info.html