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On a sidenote, level 4 autonomy will be really interesting when it's all over the place. People are already "bad drivers" (in my opinion, and including myself),

On a sidenote, level 4 autonomy will be really interesting when it's all over the place. People are already "bad drivers" (in my opinion, and including myself), but not having to drive 75-90% of the time will mean we rob ourselves of the constant training that helps keep us somewhat competent at driving. How bad will the roads be when we have thousands of people all very unsure of their driving skills driving in conditions that are dangerous to begin with? Seems quite the interesting issue.

avn2109 10y ago
>> "...people all very unsure of their driving skills..." People will still be wildly overconfident of their driving abilities.
LeifCarrotson 10y ago
I am at my worst as a driver when I am fatigued from the stress of attending to driving for a long time. Having an L4 system where I could step in for a few minutes after just riding for an hour, giving fresh attention to those few minutes, would make me a better driver. The advent of cruise control has not made people incapable of using the accelerator. You occasionally meet 16-year-olds who enable it on any 35, 45 or 55 mph road when they reach the speed limit, because holding constant speed is a skill. But it's not difficult to refrain from using it for a while to brush up on the skill.
- LordKano 10y ago
  For me, it's when I'm fatigued and early in the morning. How nice would it be to get 15 minutes to drink some coffee and wake up or relax before getting back to the drive?
- jacalata 10y ago
  I once spent two hours driving through a snowstorm in Canada. There's no reason to expect that the conditions which require human attention would only last for a few minutes.
  - LeifCarrotson 10y ago
    That's great. I've done the trip to Michigan Tech from lower Michigan in a few snowstorms. But I have done far more miles on highways in good conditions where an L4 system would be helpful. The tech is still useful even if it's not a complete solution.
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avn2109 10y ago

>> "...people all very unsure of their driving skills..." People will still be wildly overconfident of their driving abilities.

LeifCarrotson 10y ago

I am at my worst as a driver when I am fatigued from the stress of attending to driving for a long time. Having an L4 system where I could step in for a few minutes after just riding for an hour, giving fresh attention to those few minutes, would make me a better driver. The advent of cruise control has not made people incapable of using the accelerator. You occasionally meet 16-year-olds who enable it on any 35, 45 or 55 mph road when they reach the speed limit, because holding constant speed is a skill. But it's not difficult to refrain from using it for a while to brush up on the skill.

LordKano 10y ago
For me, it's when I'm fatigued and early in the morning. How nice would it be to get 15 minutes to drink some coffee and wake up or relax before getting back to the drive?
jacalata 10y ago
I once spent two hours driving through a snowstorm in Canada. There's no reason to expect that the conditions which require human attention would only last for a few minutes.
- LeifCarrotson 10y ago
  That's great. I've done the trip to Michigan Tech from lower Michigan in a few snowstorms. But I have done far more miles on highways in good conditions where an L4 system would be helpful. The tech is still useful even if it's not a complete solution.

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