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I'm constantly impressed by the effort the DPRK is putting into securing their devices. I've just skimmed it, but: The talk describes what is really an extrem

by wonko1 10y ago

I'm constantly impressed by the effort the DPRK is putting into securing their devices. I've just skimmed it, but: The talk describes what is really an extreme form of DRM, the tablet can only open media created and signed by the government or media created and self-signed on the tablet. Users can't exchange files, if they try the signature check fails. It's very similar to what they presented last year on RedStar OS, but this seems to be taking it to even greater extremes. In RedStar OS you could transfer files, but they'd get watermarked. In someways that's even scarier, because they can log ever user who touched the file. Really very interesting, it will be fascinating to see how this progresses (as well as terrifying).

lisper 10y ago
> Users can't exchange files Yes, they can, but the OS appends a watermark to each file when it is exported, so every file carries with it a record of who exported it and in what order. That allows the government, when it gets a copy of a shared file, to track back exactly who gave it to whom. > terrifying Indeed.
- wonko1 10y ago
  That appears to be the case on RedStar OS. But on Woolim you can only few government signed or self-signed content, nothing else. That was my understanding from the talk.
  - lisper 10y ago
    Ah, you may be right. I skipped over a few parts of the talk, so I may have been missing some context during the watermarking discussion. My comment was based on the segment starting at 41:30.
    - strgrd 10y ago
      Maybe you should state that you skimmed the article before declaring something so assertively. Did you even read the parent comment, or did you see "transfer files, Redstar OS" and jump at the chance to espouse your little NK factoid? Seriously, you didn't read/listen to the article, and you didn't read the parent comment. This sort of comment etiquette is unacceptable on YC
      - CodeMage 10y ago
        > This sort of comment etiquette is unacceptable on YC I feel that the above statement is more applicable to your comment, than to the comment you were talking about. I would like to politely suggest silently downvoting a comment that is factually incorrect, instead of going on a rant about comment etiquette. We're all human and we all make mistakes. Angry outbursts like yours are more toxic to a community than having an occasional user be negligent and fail to fact-check their comment.

by wonko1 10y ago

lisper 10y ago

> Users can't exchange files Yes, they can, but the OS appends a watermark to each file when it is exported, so every file carries with it a record of who exported it and in what order. That allows the government, when it gets a copy of a shared file, to track back exactly who gave it to whom. > terrifying Indeed.

wonko1 10y ago
That appears to be the case on RedStar OS. But on Woolim you can only few government signed or self-signed content, nothing else. That was my understanding from the talk.
- lisper 10y ago
  Ah, you may be right. I skipped over a few parts of the talk, so I may have been missing some context during the watermarking discussion. My comment was based on the segment starting at 41:30.
  - strgrd 10y ago
    Maybe you should state that you skimmed the article before declaring something so assertively. Did you even read the parent comment, or did you see "transfer files, Redstar OS" and jump at the chance to espouse your little NK factoid? Seriously, you didn't read/listen to the article, and you didn't read the parent comment. This sort of comment etiquette is unacceptable on YC
    - CodeMage 10y ago
      > This sort of comment etiquette is unacceptable on YC I feel that the above statement is more applicable to your comment, than to the comment you were talking about. I would like to politely suggest silently downvoting a comment that is factually incorrect, instead of going on a rant about comment etiquette. We're all human and we all make mistakes. Angry outbursts like yours are more toxic to a community than having an occasional user be negligent and fail to fact-check their comment.