> bootcamps - the best way of driving both wages and software quality down I'm not sure that's true, other than the obvious issue of supply vs. demand, where w

> bootcamps - the best way of driving both wages and software quality down I'm not sure that's true, other than the obvious issue of supply vs. demand, where wages are concerned. As for quality, I've worked with college-trained programmers who wrote awful code, and I've worked with self-taught programmers who wrote amazing code. Some of the best programmers I've ever worked with were self-taught. I never attended a bootcamp, but I have mentored for Rails Girls, Girl Develop It, and a bootcamp or two. In my experience, bootcamps are good places to learn how to write certain types of code. They don't help much in the way of theory, algorithms, or other low-level details, but for teaching people how to write typical business applications, they are a pretty good place to start, I think. I also think bootcamps are good at weeding out those with no aptitude or desire for programming. My wife attended a bootcamp, and there were two types of people who attended with her. Those who took the task seriously, studied the materials, read the books, and practiced, practiced, practiced, and those who thought that paying the $5,000 to $10,000 was all the effort they had to apply, and that someone else would magically load their minds with the requisite information, once they had achieved that monetary apex. The first types got jobs. The latter types did not.