I'd say it depends on the framework a lot. Many frameworks deeply affect how the code is written and have very specific boilerplate, custom templating and such

I'd say it depends on the framework a lot. Many frameworks deeply affect how the code is written and have very specific boilerplate, custom templating and such. And some frameworks simply offer means of doing some things in an easier, usually specific, way with the relevant language. In my experience it is also highly relevant how your thoughts on architecture match up to the framework's. I'd say you can happen to have a solid affinity for the way a framework is thought out. But in general, I'd agree, overnight is generally not sufficient for anything proper :)