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Manual labor was just an example. The key is that the job performance for example is easily measurable.

• sdenton4 10y ago
  Are you arguing that discrimination should be illegal only when it's difficult to cover up? Not sure I see where you're coming from here.
  • yuhong 10y ago
    Well, you need evidence to prove discrimination, and not all discrimination leave evidence. This is unlike things like theft or injury.
    • sdenton4 10y ago
      Luckily, the courts require evidence to make a decision. With a large company, systematic pay discrimination can certainly be observed (or not, if no pay discrimination is taking place). If, for example, all women at a large enough company were being parted a fraction of what men in comparable positions were making, we would have strong statistical evidence of discrimination, and the courts could make a decision against that company. Requesting data from Google is presumably for this kind of a statistical investigation into whether systematic discrimination has taken place. Google, for its part, is arguing that the particular kinds of data being requested are beyond what is needed for this kind of analysis.
      • yuhong 10y ago
        But there are things like "PIPs" that have problems, just to name one example. Of course, it is probably a good idea to mention that some of this stuff varies by state. I think California is one of the most strict in this area, making it even worse (a lot of posters mentioned this when Yishan, a former Reddit CEO, posted against an employee).