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Conemu doesnt suck and it uses method 2. It has few quirks but nothing serious and is almost on pair with usability as tmux and in some aspects even better.

_ix 10y ago
I use conemu at work. It's not as awful as some alternatives. I would recommend it, but I can't say that it's a good experience. Maybe I'm doing something wrong here... do you run vim in conemu? For me, it's slow when redrawing lines of text while paging and sometimes renders artifacts in the pane, especially when I vertically split vim. For a command line interface, I find it to be fairly unstable, too.
- vishbar 10y ago
  I use vim in cmder occasionally. The only way I've been able to use it properly is to disable conemu hooks before I execute it. Basically, I've defined a function my profile to: * Save the ConEmuHooks environment variable value * Set it to "Off" * Execute vim * Reset it to the previous value I alias this command to "vim". It's not pretty at all, and it caused me to use Sublime or VSCode most of the time, but it worked for me. More info here: http://conemu.github.io/en/ConEmuEnvironment.html http://conemu.github.io/en/ConEmuEnvironment.html
  - majkinetor 10y ago
    Why would you do that when gvim is available and is ways better experience then vim ? For the sake of being shell purist ? On remote shell ?
  - _ix 10y ago
    I'll give this a shot, but I'm unclear how the hooks affect vim or other processes-does this address all of my vim+conemu problems? Thank you, in any event.
- quotemstr 10y ago
  Have you tried Cygwin vim in mintty? Also, Emacs has a mode where it'll run as a Cygwin process, but use native win32 widgets. I've found using it to be the most pleasant way of interacting with Windows systems. When I was at Microsoft, I joked that I wasn't so much running "Windows" as GNU/NT. :-)
gpvos 10y ago
I tried it a few times, but it always crashes rather quickly. So it sucks.
okonomiyaki3000 10y ago
Agreed. It's the best terminal emulator I've found on windows. I usually use it for other shells and avoid cmd like the plague but, whatever shell you use, it's a far better app than conhost.exe. I haven't experienced the instability that others have but I do find its configurability a bit excessive. Somehow I want it to be much simpler but still do everything that it does now. I don't know the way to achieve this but I believe it's possible.
- spiralx 10y ago
  Cmder is basically Conemu plus Clink with nice defaults and useful initial profiles.
joelthelion 10y ago
Have you tried using vim inside it? Conemu does a decent job given all the restrictions the Windows platform has, but it's still miles behind a real Linux terminal emulator.
- majkinetor 10y ago
  No... there is no need for that on Windows. I use gvim all the time.

_ix 10y ago

I use conemu at work. It's not as awful as some alternatives. I would recommend it, but I can't say that it's a good experience. Maybe I'm doing something wrong here... do you run vim in conemu? For me, it's slow when redrawing lines of text while paging and sometimes renders artifacts in the pane, especially when I vertically split vim. For a command line interface, I find it to be fairly unstable, too.

vishbar 10y ago
I use vim in cmder occasionally. The only way I've been able to use it properly is to disable conemu hooks before I execute it. Basically, I've defined a function my profile to: * Save the ConEmuHooks environment variable value * Set it to "Off" * Execute vim * Reset it to the previous value I alias this command to "vim". It's not pretty at all, and it caused me to use Sublime or VSCode most of the time, but it worked for me. More info here: http://conemu.github.io/en/ConEmuEnvironment.html http://conemu.github.io/en/ConEmuEnvironment.html
- majkinetor 10y ago
  Why would you do that when gvim is available and is ways better experience then vim ? For the sake of being shell purist ? On remote shell ?
- _ix 10y ago
  I'll give this a shot, but I'm unclear how the hooks affect vim or other processes-does this address all of my vim+conemu problems? Thank you, in any event.
quotemstr 10y ago
Have you tried Cygwin vim in mintty? Also, Emacs has a mode where it'll run as a Cygwin process, but use native win32 widgets. I've found using it to be the most pleasant way of interacting with Windows systems. When I was at Microsoft, I joked that I wasn't so much running "Windows" as GNU/NT. :-)

gpvos 10y ago

I tried it a few times, but it always crashes rather quickly. So it sucks.

okonomiyaki3000 10y ago

Agreed. It's the best terminal emulator I've found on windows. I usually use it for other shells and avoid cmd like the plague but, whatever shell you use, it's a far better app than conhost.exe. I haven't experienced the instability that others have but I do find its configurability a bit excessive. Somehow I want it to be much simpler but still do everything that it does now. I don't know the way to achieve this but I believe it's possible.

spiralx 10y ago
Cmder is basically Conemu plus Clink with nice defaults and useful initial profiles.

joelthelion 10y ago

Have you tried using vim inside it? Conemu does a decent job given all the restrictions the Windows platform has, but it's still miles behind a real Linux terminal emulator.

majkinetor 10y ago
No... there is no need for that on Windows. I use gvim all the time.