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> I've been observing these trends for years and what I'm seeing is this: ever since these new thick client JS frameworks became so trendy, web performance has
by jeanlucas 10y ago
> I've been observing these trends for years and what I'm seeing is this: ever since these new thick client JS frameworks became so trendy, web performance has dramatically decreased, not increased.
I am in the Emberjs community, I do not observe this in that framework.
- kethinov 10y agoWell I have observed it. I've worked on many projects that used one of the big frameworks (including Ember.js projects) that would've been better off with vanilla JS and a collection of small JS libraries instead. I'm not going to name names, but they're out there. It's a tool that does get misused, like any other.
- andylei 10y agoyes, but there are plenty of projects that would not be better off with vanilla js
- scaryclam 10y agoAnd there are also plenty that would be better without any js at all
- zackthehuman 10y agoRecent releases of Ember actually reduced the output size (sometimes in the high double-digit percent) and Glimmer 2 improved rendering performance. Sometimes the needle moves back after work internal to the framework.
- kethinov 10y agoYep. And to play devil's advocate for a moment, I've really been impressed with fastboot too. I think it's a great idea. Overall things are certainly heading in the right direction, but I just wish we hand't sunk so low from a performance and robustness (progressive enhancement) standpoint first.