> As for open world games - they tend to bore me out after a while, when I hit the discovery limit. First time I discovered Minecraft (a friend gave me a pirate

> As for open world games - they tend to bore me out after a while, when I hit the discovery limit. First time I discovered Minecraft (a friend gave me a pirate copy -> no multiplayer), I spent many hours exploring caves, discovering biomes, and building subway tunnels. But when I reached the point of knowing pretty much all the mobs, blocks and features of the game, I got bored. Similarly with Terraria and Starbound (though I started playing it again now on a server with a group of friends - probably scratching my "social" itch there). Yeah, I think that's what I was trying to get at. I want both what MineCraft and Terraria (played some of that) gives you as well as a story on top of it, otherwise I don't feel I have a motivation/direction towards which to utilize the world. (I assume psychologists would have a field day with that) Yes, they do work a lot better in multiplayer, but like you said, then it's much closer to socializing. I played Dota (2) for a few years (stopped a couple of years back), which is simultaneously the best and worst game. It has depth enough that no one can define the outer bounds of possible strategies, all while only inhabitating a single map. But it also has so many frustrating legacy mechanics that should not be there, as well as a community that is, let's say, mixed. I also realized how impossible it is to attempt to even grasp it when a youtube video named "7.00 Patch Notes First Impressions" [1] (the latest version of the game) is a non-sarcastic 9h26m long without breaks. It also destroys the myth that people don't have attention spans for videos longer than 10m when the mentioned video has 347k views. Needless to say I can't go back to it. I recently picked up the latest Hitman game, and while the story is minimal, and you can still see the seams of a lot of solutions to each hit, there are enough variables at your disposal that you can engineer a lot of your own solutions. It is the Hitman:iest game since the first one I think. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EY74eKw0FgI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EY74eKw0FgI